jelloslug
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Tesla vehicles can use many standards, not just the Tesla standard. Why would Rivian not want to have the same capability?
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Rivian apparently building their own charging network
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jelloslug
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Teslas using the CCS plug in Europe was not something they volunteered to do, it was mandated by the EU.
Chuq
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It's not mandated in Australia, New Zealand, Middle East, Hong Kong/Macau, Central Asia, or any other jurisdiction I may have missed where Tesla also use CCS.
And if you talk to owners in those countries, they are much happier at having free reign of both superchargers and public charging networks. In my state there aren't any superchargers at all - but there are 3 conveniently located ultra-rapid (350 kW) stations. Model 3 owners can use these natively and get >190 kW charge rates.
What difference does it make if they're mandated to use it or not? There has been an industry standard that all other manufacturers are using for several years.
jelloslug
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No, they haven't been. The S&X still come with a slightly custom Type 2 port, and a CCS adapter. (The CCS adapter didn't even come out until mid 2019 if I recall correctly.)
Maybe the refreshed S&X, that they haven't started delivering yet, will come with a native CCS port. We will have to wait and see.
It was never mandated that a vehicle come with a CCS port. (The Leaf still comes with CHAdeMO after all.) There was a mandate that new "public" chargers installs offer CCS plugs, but there can still be other types of plugs installed as well. There was debate on if Tesla chargers even qualified as "public" and were subject to the mandate. (Especially since they were installing Superchargers with no CCS plugs after the mandate started.)
Chuq
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As I mentioned in my previous comment... they switched plugs voluntarily in a lot of regions where the were NOT forced to... and switching plugs is the best end result for the customers and the industry so, why is "they were forced!" an argument against it?
jelloslug
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My point exactly. Changing to the CCS plug was not a good thing.
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Rice&Curry
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I think it a good thing that they are putting more EV chargers even non Tesla type. This is building momentum for EV. Tesla is is way ahead ( almost a 10 year lead) on building its own charging infrastructure. Competition keeps everyone one their toes and consumers win.
mk677
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because the CCS system that rivian is employing is the defacto industry standard, the tesla system is a proprietary tesla system
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tesla vehicles in north america can use tesla units, both superchargers and L2 unit, they can use j1772 L2 units with an adaptor and they can use Chademo units with an adaptor. in North america tesla does not use CCS.
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I wish the Arkansas State Parks and Entergy could put together a plan for charging locations at our state parks' visitors center and select trailheads that have power nearby. Make a few slam dunks to show good faith and then roll out the harder to get installations over the next decade. The 50A campsites are neat, but they're usually full unless you have a reservation weeks in advance.
New partnership will bring electric vehicle charging stations to every Colorado state park
As electric cars grow in popularity, Colorado Parks and Wildlife has launched a partnership to help bring charging infrastructure for the cars to every state park.
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Panel OKs agreement to install electric vehicle chargers in Colorado state parks
Rivian, a California-based electric vehicle manufacturer, plans to begin installing charging stations in Colorado state parks as early as July.
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I wish the Arkansas State Parks and Entergy could put together a plan for charging locations at our state parks' visitors center and select trailheads that have power nearby. Make a few slam dunks to show good faith and then roll out the harder to get installations over the next decade. The 50A campsites are neat, but they're usually full unless you have a reservation weeks in advance.
Sounds good, but in practice it won’t work.
You going mountain biking for 30 minutes or 3 hrs? You’ll just tie up chargers. Places that offer hiking, mountain biking etc are packed in NH in the summer. I’m sure it’s popular in other places too. And if it’s off the beaten path it won’t be utilized enough.
You going mountain biking for 30 minutes or 3 hrs? You’ll just tie up chargers. Places that offer hiking, mountain biking etc are packed in NH in the summer. I’m sure it’s popular in other places too. And if it’s off the beaten path it won’t be utilized enough.
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