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It’s a 10-year old car and was 8.5-years old when it had a replacement battery. But of course ICE cars don’t require maintenance and last forever.I hope all the fanbois who think Tesla’s are maintenance-free see this.
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It’s a 10-year old car and was 8.5-years old when it had a replacement battery. But of course ICE cars don’t require maintenance and last forever.I hope all the fanbois who think Tesla’s are maintenance-free see this.
If it has full capacity and is warrantied, then does it matter?
It matters a lot if you are paying $22K out of pocket:
"(a) It is unfair or deceptive to represent, directly or by implication, that any industry product is new or unused when such is not the fact, or to misrepresent the current condition, or extent of previous use, reconstruction, or repair of any industry product."
I was suggesting that an assembly marked as "refurbished" could be entirely made of used parts, or have only 1 used part. If they all perform equally and have a warranty, then it's not relevent how much it is refurbished.
Right. Like people are replacing engines and transmissions in ICE vehicles every 8.5 years…GTFO with that nonsense.It’s a 10-year old car and was 8.5-years old when it had a replacement battery. But of course ICE cars don’t require maintenance and last forever.
What qty of people are having to replace their batteries? Are you suggesting that every Tesla will need this replacement every 8.5 years?Right. Like people are replacing engines and transmissions in ICE vehicles every 8.5 years…GTFO with that nonsense.
Also, this repair is probably more than 50% of the vehicle’s current market value. That is absurd.
Ask Tesla. They don’t make that data public.What qty of people are having to replace their batteries? Are you suggesting that every Tesla will need this replacement every 8.5 years?
Fabricated claim is fabricated.Not many original Model S left on the road.
"Not many original Model S left on the road." Where are you getting this data?Ask Tesla. They don’t make that data public.
They have been making cars for over a decade at this point. Not many original Roadsters left on the road. Not many original Model S left on the road. Why do you suppose that is?
Same place I got my Roadster data. Is there a reason you didn’t question that?"Not many original Model S left on the road." Where are you getting this data?
Same place I got my Roadster data. Is there a reason you didn’t question that?
My 2013 Ford Explorer Sport $50k purchased new averaged $2500 dollars a year on servicing. I kept it 3-years as I was quoted $5k at 37-months. At that rate I would have ended up paying as much if not more after 10 years of ownership. It wouldn’t have lasted 10-years anyway.Right. Like people are replacing engines and transmissions in ICE vehicles every 8.5 years…GTFO with that nonsense.
Also, this repair is probably more than 50% of the vehicle’s current market value. That is absurd.
So I got the car back with the REMAN 1014116-00-C. There is NO sticker/label on the battery. I have checked behind left/right front wheel.Definitely post the picture of the label. Thanks.
No sticker on a replacement battery? I know they sometimes fall off in use... but in this case one could start to think as if they pulled the battery of another car and made up the information on the invoice. Very strange indeed, and unfortunate you did not get full charge speed. I would have to say to cylce it a couple of times and try again with a warm battery.So I got the car back with the REMAN 1014116-00-C. There is NO sticker/label on the battery. I have checked behind left/right front wheel.
It’s around 74 F outside and I went straitht for supercharging (15 min drive). Sadly, battery i still nerfed and I assume it’s a 85Kwh pack, not 90 Kwh. Charging starts at 80 Kw around 20 % (only some seconds), then appr. 60 kw and down. It takes about one hour to charge from 20-80 %. It seems like I have lost range compared to the old battery. I get 320 km (typical)@ 90 % charge = 199 miles. I used to have around 350 km. Perhaps it’s an BMS issue? I have to ask Tesla, but I'm not so happy with my «swap».
Yes. strange. I'll do a couple of cycles and I've sent a message to the Tesla team regarding this.No sticker on a replacement battery? I know they sometimes fall off in use... but in this case one could start to think as if they pulled the battery of another car and made up the information on the invoice. Very strange indeed, and unfortunate you did not get full charge speed. I would have to say to cylce it a couple of times and try again with a warm battery.
Yes, definitely clan all over except some glue residue where the sticker should be…..So my battery got replaced 2 months back, but it failed again 1 month ago and I am waiting on another one. Does you pack look really clean and new like mine did?
One would think the company and thus all relevant employees at Tesla are focussed on the Model 3,Y and new S models + Cybertruck. The legacy S-es that we drive have just been a temporary product to get to the FSD 'capable' and more 'reliable' and overall better models. It thus seems to be in the interest of Tesla to get rid of the legacy S-es as quick as possible. But I'm afraid it is too soon for that and they are stuck with the fleet for at least another 10-15 years.Not to be a useful idiot, but Tesla does have a lot of data that would be really nice to see.
But, there is very little that can be derived from Roadster longevity data, to 2012-13 S data, to later S models. There were rather big changes along the way with proven longevity improvements. Well - proven - let's just say generally agreed upon from people who have been studying this stuff for a decade.
I don't consider myself a fanboy - in fact will not ever buy a Tesla again. But I don't think Roadster longevity data has much relevance to my 2015 - not that we even have this data.
That being said, battery longevity and cost is an issue that does not effect ICE vehicles. Age does not hurt an ICE engine that much and catastrophic failure is very uncommon in the first 20 years. Not unheard of but uncommon for cars say manufactured in the 1990s. And then there is an easier path to a few $k used replacement - since failure is so uncommon.
I would suspect the majority agree that $22k is too much given the warranty obtained (If it was 8 years - and it should be - then $22k is okay for me). And that is why most educated folks do not spend that much. They go to third party or work to get refurb.
When you consider cost, you should factor in about $2k a year for fuel savings. So $22k for 8 years given that $16k is saved in fuel is perfectly reasonable. Or $11k (for refurb) for 4 years is also quite good.
Obviously - if someone drives a small number of miles - then financially they should not be driving an old Model S or really any EV. EV's make financial sense when gas prices are very high or miles are high. Not that money dictates all decisions but since cost of a battey is the topic, it is more relevant than usual.