pdx3181
Member
NOPE NOPE NOPE
I will never do that!
Between almost hitting the parked car and running into the railing, I have seen enough. I am certain it will work marvelously for others here - but not me.
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Smart Summon 2019.20.0.1
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NOPE NOPE NOPE
I will never do that!
Between almost hitting the parked car and running into the railing, I have seen enough. I am certain it will work marvelously for others here - but not me.
It's really that bad.... now you can see why the release has been delayed. They really need to work on it
LMAO go home Tesla you're drunk! Still a long way to go before they will ever be a public released. Thanks for the video and voiceover tho Lol! Hope with more beta testing this feature will be improved enough to be actually usable in a real world scenario.
woodisgood
Optimustic Pessimist
Oh man, that last one was pretty bad. Now imagine that happening in a parking lot with traffic. There are going to be some nasty headlines until they clean it up.
Watts_Up
Well-Known Member
Let’s just say I’ve seen a version of this struggle to “see” that the car was on a different “level” than maybe what would be implied via a 2D map.
Your question is a good one. I cannot imagine it will work well in that environment if the owner is within range but on a different level.
Daniel in SD
(supervised)
Since you’re supposed to monitor the car while using summon this doesn’t seem like a real problem.
I expect quite a few people will make the mistake of parking, returning later, and then not inspecting around the vehicle before using summon. In a parking lot the environment will change between when you parked the car and when you return. I’m wondering how well the car will recognize objects that are very close and low to the side of the vehicle (outside the area that can be seen by the ultrasonics).
BrandonLive
MS LR (refresh) Blue/Black/21s/FSD
I’m a big fan of AP and Tesla’s strategy for autonomy, but there is absolutely zero truth to this claim you made. Tesla doesn’t release the data necessary to make any causal claims about the safety of AP use versus not using it.
It isn’t even possible to generate that data with a causal link given the way it is rolled out. The best they could do would be to provide a statistical comparison between a manually created control group of otherwise similar drivers who don’t use AP, vs a test group who do use it. To achieve any meaningful statistical power they’d also need to provide ways to slice this data and scope the analysis.
The simplest thing they could do that gets closer to meaningful data would be to provide miles-traveled-per-accident data filtered to major highways, which could potentially provide evidence that AP use *might* improve safety of travel on said highways. But for now, we do not even have relatively simple data like that. The best we have is overall fleet stats about miles when AP is engaged versus not. All this tells us is that AP isn’t obviously and overtly detrimental to driving safety.
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willow_hiller
Well-Known Member
Found another good video with some pretty comprehensive tests. I guess it's safe to say that autopark smart summon isn't really a feature yet:
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
Tesla owners: "Elon said next week. Where is Enhanced Summon? We want it NOW!!"
Tesla releases Enhanced Summon to Early Access
Tesla owners: "Enhanced Summon sucks!!! Tesla better work on it some more before releasing! It's not ready!"
Tesla pulls Enhanced Summon and works on it some more
Tesla owners: "Where is Enhanced Summon? Tesla lied again. They said next week."
Tesla re-releases Enhanced Summon to Early Access again
Tesla owners: "Enhanced Summon STILL sucks!!! Tesla better work on it some more before releasing! It's not ready!"
Seriously, this Enhanced Summon is better than what we saw before. It is faster than before. it is just Early Access, not representative of the final product. Yes, Tesla has a ways to go before the car can drop us off at the front of a store and go park itself without any supervision. I am sure that will come eventually with AP3. But this Enhanced Summon is a first step, a beta, towards that eventual goal.
Tesla releases Enhanced Summon to Early Access
Tesla owners: "Enhanced Summon sucks!!! Tesla better work on it some more before releasing! It's not ready!"
Tesla pulls Enhanced Summon and works on it some more
Tesla owners: "Where is Enhanced Summon? Tesla lied again. They said next week."
Tesla re-releases Enhanced Summon to Early Access again
Tesla owners: "Enhanced Summon STILL sucks!!! Tesla better work on it some more before releasing! It's not ready!"
Seriously, this Enhanced Summon is better than what we saw before. It is faster than before. it is just Early Access, not representative of the final product. Yes, Tesla has a ways to go before the car can drop us off at the front of a store and go park itself without any supervision. I am sure that will come eventually with AP3. But this Enhanced Summon is a first step, a beta, towards that eventual goal.
So is dropoff really a feature or is he just summoning his car to a parking space by dropping the pin?
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
Drop off is not a feature yet. He is just dropping a pin in a parking space to try to simulate a drop off. Obviously, since drop off is not actually implemented yet, it is not surprising that it does not work well.
pdx3181
Member
That actually made me chuckle out loud. It's true.
But what's also true is that TODAY, on the Tesla website, the FSD package says/advertises:
The "Really" really is there.
At a minimum, they should advertise this as "coming this year" rather than being offered now.
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
Yeah, they probably should have. Although I think at this point, it's too late. Tesla should just focus on finishing the feature. Imagine the hell that Tesla would get from owners if they suddenly changed the wording now. Might look something like. LOL.
insaneoctane
Well-Known Member
Again I am supportive of Tesla offering features early to the brave souls willing to try them....but Elon and Tesla's current positioning of this feature should contain the commentary that it's currently being evaluated with the fleet for feedback and improvement. Not that it's fully baked. Really. I think it's great to be testing it out, but it's sooooo far away from being primetime!
NIGHTHAWK017
Member
This video shows some good stuff but I’m skeptical that it’s the best it could do. At the end they talk about how summon wasn’t working and they did a reset on the car. After the reset it was working.
Did they calibrate the cameras before this test?
Enginerd
Member
This is the most egregious violation of the Early Access Program NDA that I've seen, complete with shameless self-promotion. Finally pushed me over the edge. I've reported it, as it also violates YouTube's terms of service agreement.
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