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Found his thread in his post history to save others the work if they want to check it out too: Installed my wheel arch linerI installed the front wheel well liners, and they're the same fabric as the rear. It's not cotton, that's just some bad chinese translating. They might make a tiny bit of improvement, but it's impossible to say objectively. Totally easy to install. I made a thread a while ago. I'd do it again. If you could put some thinsulate in-between the outer plastic and the inner fabric liners, that might be the ideal solution. Then again, it seems that others have found the biggest benefit in insulating the rear wheel wells.
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Has anyone confirmed that the current M3 production is actually quieter as Elon stated? Also, what are the perceptions of those that own both the S & 3 in terms of relative quietness?
I installed the front wheel well liners, and they're the same fabric as the rear. It's not cotton, that's just some bad chinese translating. They might make a tiny bit of improvement, but it's impossible to say objectively. Totally easy to install. I made a thread a while ago. I'd do it again. If you could put some thinsulate in-between the outer plastic and the inner fabric liners, that might be the ideal solution. Then again, it seems that others have found the biggest benefit in insulating the rear wheel wells.
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Don't think so. The included fasteners are longer, but you'd have to squish it all together to get it to fasten, and squishing the thinsulate kind of defeats the purpose, no?Do you think the screws would be long enough if you put thinsulate in between liners?
Ordered thinsulate, spray adhesive and noico. Going to do wheel wells with both deadeners as a starting point on mine.
I have struggled with excess road noise since December 2017, M3. I added acoustic absorbing panels, front and rear, Acoustic absorbing materials, front and rear, added multiple weather striping, and all helped a bit. Last week i bought two rear OEM 18" michelin tires, and discovered the original tires were defective, resulting in significant noise from the rear. My new Michelins are exactly the same model, but actually QUITE! I asked Tesla to warranty the other two original tires (I think they are aware the early tires were bad), they declined but offered free labor for other non-tire related, maintenance/service... I have not recommend a M3 to any person that was interested in a Tesla, due solely to the poor ride / noise problem. It is difficult for me to understand why Tesla was ararw of this problem, but never issued a service bulletin or tire recall...
I have struggled with excess road noise since December 2017, M3. I added acoustic absorbing panels, front and rear, Acoustic absorbing materials, front and rear, added multiple weather striping, and all helped a bit. Last week i bought two rear OEM 18" michelin tires, and discovered the original tires were defective, resulting in significant noise from the rear. My new Michelins are exactly the same model, but actually QUITE! I asked Tesla to warranty the other two original tires (I think they are aware the early tires were bad), they declined but offered free labor for other non-tire related, maintenance/service... I have not recommend a M3 to any person that was interested in a Tesla, due solely to the poor ride / noise problem. It is difficult for me to understand why Tesla was ararw of this problem, but never issued a service bulletin or tire recall...
I have struggled with excess road noise since December 2017, M3. I added acoustic absorbing panels, front and rear, Acoustic absorbing materials, front and rear, added multiple weather striping, and all helped a bit. Last week i bought two rear OEM 18" michelin tires, and discovered the original tires were defective, resulting in significant noise from the rear. My new Michelins are exactly the same model, but actually QUITE! I asked Tesla to warranty the other two original tires (I think they are aware the early tires were bad), they declined but offered free labor for other non-tire related, maintenance/service... I have not recommend a M3 to any person that was interested in a Tesla, due solely to the poor ride / noise problem. It is difficult for me to understand why Tesla was ararw of this problem, but never issued a service bulletin or tire recall...
I worked in a tire/lube shop many years ago. Noisy tires have been a thing on cars for decades. You can get differences in noise level even from one batch of the same model tire to the next. I had a very custom VW Jetta back then and went through about 4 different tire sets ( brand/model) before I found a set that didn't give me excessive road noise. Doesn't necessarily mean there was anything wrong with the tires
so the question would be what're the quietest tires out there when it comes time to replace?
No the majority of the noise is the characteristics of the rubber. The rubber contacts and transmits the vibrations directly to the wheel which is directly attached to the car. What makes the sound more or less annoying ( louder or quieter) is a byproduct of the tread pattern and the material characteristics of the rubber/tire belts themselves. If this creates a vibration frequency by it's interaction with the particular roads you drive on/or amplified by other vibrations of the vehicle it tends to be loud and annoying. The best thing you can do is try another tire brand or a tire with a different tread pattern. Ya some foam inside may cancel out some reverberation inside but this is minor compared to other factors and probably not a good idea to do yourself due to things like risk of un-balancing the mass of the tireNo I mean.. is there any real noise reduction by foaming yourself the inside of any tire of choice?
Was this liner mounted over the existing plastic or in place of it?I installed the front wheel well liners, and they're the same fabric as the rear. It's not cotton, that's just some bad chinese translating. They might make a tiny bit of improvement, but it's impossible to say objectively. Totally easy to install. I made a thread a while ago. I'd do it again. If you could put some thinsulate in-between the outer plastic and the inner fabric liners, that might be the ideal solution. Then again, it seems that others have found the biggest benefit in insulating the rear wheel wells.
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It's a two layered sandwich. The longer plastic clips allow you to put the fabric liner over the plastic one.Was this liner mounted over the existing plastic or in place of it?