Consider preferring hotels of any brand that offer tesla destination or at least 30 amp charging. Any hotel that doesnt at this point is likely to be run by stupid managers and probably has other defects.
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Wiki Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software
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Consider preferring hotels of any brand that offer tesla destination or at least 30 amp charging. Any hotel that doesnt at this point is likely to be run by stupid managers and probably has other defects.
MikeBur
ManualPilot
Sigh... this is going to get entertaining. Anyone put question up for shareholders meeting yet and can we upvote it?
There is no point in asking Tesla to check the condition of your battery. Tesla will tell you the battery is fine. I’ve had my battery tested numerous times and they tell me it is 40% better than similar batteries if like age and mileage.
If you suspect your battery has been capped and you have an Android phone/tablet, I recommend you buy an OBDLink LX scanner (cost about $50), an adapter cable (cost about $25) and buy the app ScanMyTesla on the google play store (cost $10). If, like me, you are an iPhone user, you can buy an Android phone at Walmart for about $40 (I bought a Samsung J7 that they sell for prepaid use but I never activated it). With ScanMyTesla you will instantly be able to determine the capacity of your battery, the cell voltage, SOC range and much more information than you likely need.
If you suspect your battery has been capped and you have an Android phone/tablet, I recommend you buy an OBDLink LX scanner (cost about $50), an adapter cable (cost about $25) and buy the app ScanMyTesla on the google play store (cost $10). If, like me, you are an iPhone user, you can buy an Android phone at Walmart for about $40 (I bought a Samsung J7 that they sell for prepaid use but I never activated it). With ScanMyTesla you will instantly be able to determine the capacity of your battery, the cell voltage, SOC range and much more information than you likely need.
Can’t believe I read and scanned through all 291 pagesDecided to switch to scanning once I started to see a lot of tangents being brought in and also a lot of back and forth about nothing. Sure wish people would not have wasted people’s time with such ridiculousness
In any event, appreciate everyone’s efforts and information that was relevant to this topic!
I have a May 2015 85d with about 44,000km that went from 395km at 90% to 387 now (this was all after the May update that I think got to me closer to June). No where near as bad as others. Don’t know if I get throttled at SC as I don’t use them that often. Might need to go and take up a stall one weekend and test.
Again thanks to all those that have posted great and relevant information here and sure hope those that take away from the topic and think twice before they continue to waste people’s time and more importantly they stop trying to get on people’s nerves.
Thanks for spending your valuable time to scan through the whole thread. You must be well-informed about the issue and hopefully not waste any time by the ridiculous distractions some have tried in order to defend the indefensible. On the positive side, and like you have mentioned, there are plenty of facts and useful information in this thread we all have learned a lot from.
faughtz
Model S P85DL
I did, that was the 1 hr wait.
I think the era of customer service is corporately over, although there are individual employee exceptions.
My point, in this thread, is that it appears something further than we have previously seen with slowing supercharging is occurring. Is tesla selectively encouraging some cars to avoid supercharging by dramatically slowing charging? Not clear that it is a station problem vs a car problem. I’m seeing this behavior at all paired Superchargers, but not at 72kW chargers.
faughtz
Model S P85DL
Yes, my car runs the cooling pumps more often, and for longer, during, and after supercharging sessions than before the theft.
faughtz
Model S P85DL
faughtz
Model S P85DL
No, I’m comparing and contrasting a Supercharger station with paired stalls vs 72kW single stalls...
At a 72kW single stall, I get 72kW-initially.
This is interesting, but I have to wonder why they wouldn't simply target a single battery temperature, or at least a scaled temperature based on SOC. Are you able to do a datalog of a Supercharger session with the following variables?
SOC, charge rate, max/min battery temperature, min/max battery module voltage, time
DJRas
Member
A reputable company with a reputable customer service stands behind its products. That was my take on Tesla when I purchased my car from them in 2015. That impression started to fade when the customer service became mediocre and now entirely lost with this voltage cap shenanigan.
This battery warranty denial reminds me of this article. Musk says Tesla will be out of money in 10 months without ‘hardcore’ changes
Musk says Tesla will be out of money in 10 months without ‘hardcore’ changes
Both he and Tesla’s new CFO will personally review employee expenses.
Musk says Tesla will be out of money in 10 months without ‘hardcore’ changes
Both he and Tesla’s new CFO will personally review employee expenses.
- By Sean O'Kane
- on May 17, 2019 12:53 pm
The best time to do this, IMHO, would be at the annual shareholder's meeting. Short of that, any scheduled live Tesla event should work.
I can only speculate, but the fact that the additional cooling kicks in right when the voltage hits the point where charging switches to constant voltage could mean that this is a state where the battery is at a higher risk and temperature is a factor that makes things worse.
I've been watching battery temperature in my car for years. The car doesn't try to keep the battery at a specific ideal temperature. A wide range seems to be acceptable. So this new behavior of cooling the battery down significantly at the cost of a good amount of energy is definitely something new. Tesla must think it's important.
In general the car does a lot more cooling recently. First I thought something is wrong with my car but it seems others experience similar things so it must be software changes. Looking at the data what the car is doing makes no sense and makes a lot of noise. But that's a different topic.
Yes I have lots of logs from the car. Some of it can be very interesting, especially when software changes how the car does things.
When the local service center recommended they replace my battery due to battery gate and my complaints and recent purchase of the car in May they had to get approval from corporate so this is very true.
cpa
Active Member
Yes, you will receive 72kW if your battery SOC is low enough. But the taper starts more rapidly now. I used an urbancharger about six weeks ago, plugged in at 41%, and started out with 60ish kW, similar to the current that I would have received at a Supercharger.
cpa
Active Member
Question for all the smart folks:
Our Model S is a 2014 vintage, so it is lacking in some of the newer bells and whistles. Our Model 3 is 19 months old.
I recall that there was an update earlier this year that provided some sort of battery preconditioning to allow the car's battery to be at the optimum temperature for the most efficient charge rate at a Supercharger. I understand that we have to dial the Supercharger into the navigation system for this preconditioning to kick in. I further believe that our Model S is too old, and cannot avail itself of this benefit.
Is it possible that this battery preconditioning software is tied to both batterygate and chargegate? In other words, Tesla detected that sub-optimum charging temperatures (see also posts from David 99) might have long-term deleterious effects on the battery when Supercharging? Was this software update coincidental or causal?
Our Model S is a 2014 vintage, so it is lacking in some of the newer bells and whistles. Our Model 3 is 19 months old.
I recall that there was an update earlier this year that provided some sort of battery preconditioning to allow the car's battery to be at the optimum temperature for the most efficient charge rate at a Supercharger. I understand that we have to dial the Supercharger into the navigation system for this preconditioning to kick in. I further believe that our Model S is too old, and cannot avail itself of this benefit.
Is it possible that this battery preconditioning software is tied to both batterygate and chargegate? In other words, Tesla detected that sub-optimum charging temperatures (see also posts from David 99) might have long-term deleterious effects on the battery when Supercharging? Was this software update coincidental or causal?
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