Supercharger - Burlington, WA - Marketplace Dr. (LIVE Jun 2023, 16 V3 stalls)

[Mrbrock]

Just stopped by. Still not activated.

These should show up in the app once they are active. They have been showing up as they are being commissioned so always good to check there first.

 

[pricey]

It’s open!

 

[Metalhead47]

It’s open!

!!!!

 

[pricey]

Looks like I was the first one to charge there!

The supercharger shows in the app, but not in the Tesla… I charged 100 miles, and wasn’t charged a penny. I guess their system hasn’t fully updated, so there is free supercharging currently!

EDIT:
Looks like they billed me awhile after I charged. Still interesting how it didn’t show me the price of the session as it was charging

 

[Big Earl]

 

[israndy]

I charged 100 miles, and wasn’t charged a penny. I guess their system hasn’t fully updated, so there is free supercharging currently!

EDIT:
Looks like they billed me awhile after I charged. Still interesting how it didn’t show me the price of the session as it was charging

Yeah, I used to fall for that fake-out, good that you went back and checked, I didn't, just relied on the screen to tell me the truth, but when you charge before they are OFFICIALLY open it'll often act like you are charging for free, but as they, say Elon didn't get rich by writing a lotta checks

 

[Mbrockus]

running strong! Pull in stalls will be nice for anyone with a bike rack or camper.

 

[goneskiian]

Wow, looks like quite a basin, hope the drain doesn't clog in a powerful rainstorm, looks like the cabinets at least are mounted slightly higher, like up on a flood platform in the Keys. Is that big cabinet a battery bank, or just switching equipment? Don't see any Starlink antenna, what happened to the promise of WiFi at all Superchargers that Elon made when they took away lifetime connectivity? Glad I am grandfathered in, but I won't be on the CT

That picture is deceptive. The off-ramp from I-5 it was taken from is raised above all the land around it to get it up to the height of the freeway overpass.

 

[Mrbrock]

New electrical permits filed at a bunch of SC stations today by Tesla Energy. Remove and replace charge post junction box. That sounds like the switchgear cabinet or are we talking about the V3 cabinets or something inside of them? Wonder if this has to do with either upgrading to V4 or magic docks. None of the prior Magic Dock upgrades showed electrical permits like this if I recall correctly. Anyone else have other thoughts on this as being something other than changing out switchgear cabinets? @Big Earl

Edit: This same activity has been applied for at Forks which already has Magic Docks so I am still curious as to what actual part is being replaced.

 

[Big Earl]

New electrical permits filed at a bunch of SC stations today by Tesla Energy. Remove and replace charge post junction box. That sounds like the switchgear cabinet or are we talking about the V3 cabinets or something inside of them? Wonder if this has to do with either upgrading to V4 or magic docks. None of the prior Magic Dock upgrades showed electrical permits like this if I recall correctly. Anyone else have other thoughts on this as being something other than changing out switchgear cabinets? @Big Earl

Edit: This same activity has been applied for at Forks which already has Magic Docks so I am still curious as to what actual part is being replaced.

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Charge post junction box sounds like the Supercharger cabinet to me.

 

[Mrbrock]

Charge post junction box sounds like the Supercharger cabinet to me.

So is this suggesting V4 cabinets? Seems odd that (1) they would replace the whole cabinet and (2) call it a "charge post junction box" instead of "supercharger cabinet" since all plans and most permits refer to them as supercharger cabinets. At this point I think I am leaning towards the actual junction box inside the supercharger cabinet as opposed to the whole cabinet but we shall see. Other than a change in specs on the name plate, are there any identifying marks/numbers on the name plate? Like a serial number? I know there is a manufacture date so if we see late 2023 or 2024 then we know its new but just curious of there was anything more specific to each cabinet (I'll check some other threads and hopefully answer my own question). Then we could record now and see if anything changes over the coming weeks.

 

[Mrbrock]

I think the part after the : is teh serial numnber specific to each cabinet.

from Wilsonville thread

From Chugiak thread

Also from Chugiak, I would guess where the four groups of cables from the post meet wold be what is replaced if it is not the whole cabinet.

 

[Tectonic]

So is this suggesting V4 cabinets? Seems odd that (1) they would replace the whole cabinet and (2) call it a "charge post junction box" instead of "supercharger cabinet" since all plans and most permits refer to them as supercharger cabinets. At this point I think I am leaning towards the actual junction box inside the supercharger cabinet as opposed to the whole cabinet but we shall see. Other than a change in specs on the name plate, are there any identifying marks/numbers on the name plate? Like a serial number? I know there is a manufacture date so if we see late 2023 or 2024 then we know its new but just curious of there was anything more specific to each cabinet (I'll check some other threads and hopefully answer my own question). Then we could record now and see if anything changes over the coming weeks.

FWIW, I saw reports elsewhere (either on this forum or on PlugShare) that Tesla was retrofitting some v3 sites for upcoming compatibility with other automakers that will begin using these stations with an adapter or native NACS. Maybe they are doing the same thing here?

 

[Big Earl]

I don’t think they’re wholesale replacing the cabinets. I think they’re removing them - doing something inside of them - and putting them back. Likely a prerequisite for MagicDocks. I think you’re right that the charging post junction box is a component within the Supercharger cabinet.

 

[Big Earl]

I drove by today and there is nothing to report.

 

[Mrbrock]

I don’t think they’re wholesale replacing the cabinets. I think they’re removing them - doing something inside of them - and putting them back. Likely a prerequisite for MagicDocks. I think you’re right that the charging post junction box is a component within the Supercharger cabinet.

Forks and Moses Lake are on this list and they have Magic Docks already. Also, I think the removing is just of the component inside, not the whole cabinet. It doesn't say remove cabinet and replace junction box but remove and replace junction box, no mention of a cabinet. Will be interesting to see how this happens since they applied for 12 sites at one time. All of which are more rural and completely avoids the Seattle metro area (North Bend is the closest I think).

Here are some other V3 sites not included (non-seattle):
Spokane
Sprague
Pasco
Yakima x2
Tulalip Bay
Rochester
Tumwater
Lacey
Ocean Shores

 

[Big Earl]

Interesting point about this applying to some sites that already have MagicDock. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what this is all about.

 

[Mrbrock]

Interesting point about this applying to some sites that already have MagicDock. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what this is all about.

There was talk a while back about V3 being able to handle higher speed (324kw). I wonder if this is that. About 2 years later.

Report: Tesla V3 Supercharger Output To Be Increased To 324 kW

A new power-up for Tesla Supercharging in North America is coming soon, according to the latest rumors.

insideevs.com

 

[Tectonic]

FWIW, I saw reports elsewhere (either on this forum or on PlugShare) that Tesla was retrofitting some v3 sites for upcoming compatibility with other automakers that will begin using these stations with an adapter or native NACS. Maybe they are doing the same thing here?

Here's the report I saw on Plugshare from a supercharger in El Dorado, KS. Who knows, but might be the same thing here? Upgrading 4 chargers at a time seems to imply something in the supercharger cabinet...

jrklein
Tesla Model S
57 Kilowatts
57kW @ 50% SoC. 12/18 visit 107kW @ 10% SoC. Tesla technician was on site upgrading hardware so that chargers would support manufacturers who signed the Tesla charging agreement. This was NOT a magic dock upgrade. He had already upgraded 4 chargers yesterday, and was upgrading the other 4 chargers this morning. I believe he said Tesla is working to upgrade compatibility of all of their chargers by February 2024. He anticipates Tesla will install a supercharger in Parsons, Kansas in 2025.

El Dorado Supercharger | Towanda, KS | EV Station

8 Superchargers, available 24/7, up to 250kW

www.plugshare.com

 

[Mrbrock]

Here's the report I saw on Plugshare from a supercharger in El Dorado, KS. Who knows, but might be the same thing here? Upgrading 4 chargers at a time seems to imply something in the supercharger cabinet...

jrklein
Tesla Model S
57 Kilowatts
57kW @ 50% SoC. 12/18 visit 107kW @ 10% SoC. Tesla technician was on site upgrading hardware so that chargers would support manufacturers who signed the Tesla charging agreement. This was NOT a magic dock upgrade. He had already upgraded 4 chargers yesterday, and was upgrading the other 4 chargers this morning. I believe he said Tesla is working to upgrade compatibility of all of their chargers by February 2024. He anticipates Tesla will install a supercharger in Parsons, Kansas in 2025.

El Dorado Supercharger | Towanda, KS | EV Station

8 Superchargers, available 24/7, up to 250kW

www.plugshare.com

That sounds logical. Must need some additional wires or communication to work properly with the NACS to CCS adapters that are coming out.