Are all the boxes the same size? Because in addition to the Supercharger cabinets, 1 per 2 stalls, there has to be at least one QED, switchgear, cabinet. So it could be 6 stalls, or it could be that more boxes are on the way.
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Supercharger - Issaquah, WA (LIVE Oct 2018, 8 Urban stalls)
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Are all the boxes the same size? Because in addition to the Supercharger cabinets, 1 per 2 stalls, there has to be at least one QED, switchgear, cabinet. So it could be 6 stalls, or it could be that more boxes are on the way.
What do you think of this? a $124 fine if a vehicle isn't actively charging (In Wa State)?
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Plug-In Electric Vehicle (PEV) Charging Signage and Parking Regulations
A PEV charging station must be indicated by vertical signage that properly identifies the station and indicates that it is only for PEV charging. The signage must be consistent with the U.S. Federal Highway Administration's Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices, and the station must be indicated by green pavement markings. A PEV charging station is defined as a public or private parking space that is served by charging equipment with the primary purpose of transferring electric energy to a battery or other energy storage device in a PEV. Any person who parks a vehicle in a PEV charging station parking space and does not connect to the equipment is subject to a fine of $124. (Reference Revised Code of Washington 46.08.185)
46.08.175 << 46.08.185 >> 46.08.190
RCW 46.08.185
Electric vehicle charging stations—Signage—Penalty.
(1) An electric vehicle charging station must be indicated by vertical signage identifying the station as an electric vehicle charging station and indicating that it is only for electric vehicle charging. The signage must be consistent with the manual on uniform traffic control devices, as adopted by the department of transportation under RCW 47.36.030. Additionally, the electric vehicle charging station must be indicated by green pavement markings. Supplementary signage may be posted to provide additional information including, but not limited to, the amount of the monetary penalty under subsection (2) of this section for parking in the station while not connected to the charging equipment.
(2) It is a parking infraction, with a monetary penalty of one hundred twenty-four dollars, for any person to park a vehicle in an electric vehicle charging station provided on public or private property if the vehicle is not connected to the charging equipment. The parking infraction must be processed as prescribed under RCW 3.50.100, 35.20.220, 46.16A.120, and * 46.20.270(3).
(3) For purposes of this section, "electric vehicle charging station" means a public or private parking space that is served by charging equipment that has as its primary purpose the transfer of electric energy to a battery or other energy storage device in an electric vehicle.
[ 2013 c 60 § 1.]
NOTES:
*Reviser's note: RCW 46.20.270 was amended by 2013 2nd sp.s. c 35 § 17, changing subsection (3) to subsection (2).
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Plug-In Electric Vehicle (PEV) Charging Signage and Parking Regulations
A PEV charging station must be indicated by vertical signage that properly identifies the station and indicates that it is only for PEV charging. The signage must be consistent with the U.S. Federal Highway Administration's Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices, and the station must be indicated by green pavement markings. A PEV charging station is defined as a public or private parking space that is served by charging equipment with the primary purpose of transferring electric energy to a battery or other energy storage device in a PEV. Any person who parks a vehicle in a PEV charging station parking space and does not connect to the equipment is subject to a fine of $124. (Reference Revised Code of Washington 46.08.185)
46.08.175 << 46.08.185 >> 46.08.190
RCW 46.08.185
Electric vehicle charging stations—Signage—Penalty.
(1) An electric vehicle charging station must be indicated by vertical signage identifying the station as an electric vehicle charging station and indicating that it is only for electric vehicle charging. The signage must be consistent with the manual on uniform traffic control devices, as adopted by the department of transportation under RCW 47.36.030. Additionally, the electric vehicle charging station must be indicated by green pavement markings. Supplementary signage may be posted to provide additional information including, but not limited to, the amount of the monetary penalty under subsection (2) of this section for parking in the station while not connected to the charging equipment.
(2) It is a parking infraction, with a monetary penalty of one hundred twenty-four dollars, for any person to park a vehicle in an electric vehicle charging station provided on public or private property if the vehicle is not connected to the charging equipment. The parking infraction must be processed as prescribed under RCW 3.50.100, 35.20.220, 46.16A.120, and * 46.20.270(3).
(3) For purposes of this section, "electric vehicle charging station" means a public or private parking space that is served by charging equipment that has as its primary purpose the transfer of electric energy to a battery or other energy storage device in an electric vehicle.
[ 2013 c 60 § 1.]
NOTES:
*Reviser's note: RCW 46.20.270 was amended by 2013 2nd sp.s. c 35 § 17, changing subsection (3) to subsection (2).
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I think it's needed, but this is the wrong thread me also thinks
I think the conduits came out of two of the boxes as I only see two left as well as broken down box sides. The remaining two are pretty big though
It’s possible there was a problem with electrical supply that resulted in cancelling the first install. Maybe urban chargers are how they were able to make the location viable. Will be interesting to see what gets installed.
I agree, this is the wrong place for this discussion. Superchargers are never marked to comply with this law -- it's pretty rare for any charging facility to be in compliance. Then there is the issue of enforcement. The law is a good idea, but the execution is pretty meaningless.
Urban Superchargers require the exact same electrical supply as normal Superchargers. 144kW per two stall pair.
tinm
2020 Model S LR+ Owner
Used to live in a house on the hill a few minutes' drive from this site. As soon as I saw on the map, which shopping center had been chosen for the supercharger, my thought was "oh, there will be lots of ICEing there for sure." Very busy shopping center, and folks aren't going to take too kindly to being told they can't park anywhere they want.
It's far enough away from the main store. With some good signage and possibly even with one of their newer pull-through layouts hopefully most ICE drivers will get the message.
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When visiting in my past trips here, had extreme range anxiety to freely travel in the Seattle/Sammamish area. This will be great to have a Supercharger available on my future trips in this area.
Yeah. To me they chose probably the farthest they could from the entrances to Fred Meyer while still not being directly across from any business on the lot facing opposite. (There are stores on all sides of this parking lot).
The only reasons normal people will park in these spots is either the lot being full or purposely trying to ICE.
To put things in perspective even with these spots walled off there was still a buffer of empty spots surrounding the enclosure. You could reason that people just don't want to park near the fences but it also means that they preferred and found suitable parking elsewhere.
I visit this plaza a few times a week (groceries, and the restaurants). Unfortunately since the last time they tried digging i've been watching keenly and those spots are in fact used quite a bit by shoppers to the restaurants on the other side. There's a new Ivar's coming in addition to panda express, qdoba, etc. Likely be affected by both ICE'ing as well as locals to do their daily charging.
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