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Supercharger - Jasper, AB
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Do note that after charging in Field, there’s a large climb (420m) to get back to Lake Louise and the Icefields Parkway (Hwy 93 to Jasper) turnoff. I speak with the experience of someone who has climbed/descended this by bicycle many times.
softcoder
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I have made it to Jasper in one charge from Prince George, BC starting at 100% charge and driving the speed limit.
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There is a ministry charger 50kw coming this year: PlugShare - Find Electric Vehicle Charging Locations Near You
scottf200
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I'm confused. How do you account for the up and down elevation? You mentioned 'net' but ignored my pertinent comments about only get like 70% back from going up and then down a hill with regen. Perhaps you are mainly accounting for going under the speed limit.Just posting more ABRP numbers doesn't make them start to make sense
I'd be very confident I could make that drive in an X100D even with a 5-10% degraded battery as long as it was summer and I was going in the downhill direction. Just drive 50-60mph, go easy on the HVAC, and drive during the warmth of the day. I believe the speed limit is only 100kph on that highway.
I know you travel a lot in a more efficient Model S but I'm curious what your kW/mi are in mountainous areas? (ie. Rocky mountains in CO, MT, WY or Glacier National in Canada).
In ABRP I also add in weight for a 2nd person, luggage, my small fridge, etc so 200 lbs. I'm sure folks traveling to/from Jasper will not just be driving solo so I think this is more realistic.
I realized we are a tiny bit off topic of the thread but I think it is relevant as people will be wanting to travel to/from Jasper from a couple directions.
scottf200
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Thanks and TIA for the following. What are you driving and what was the Wh/mi or km? Passengers? How much extra weight would you guess you had in your car?
Did you happen to take a picture of your energy graph? I only ask because I was thinking you were a YTer or travel logger. Sorry if my aging memory is failing me.
softcoder
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I drive a Model 3 AWD Long Range (max 518 km). I have driven over 400 km in a single charge from Prince George, BC through the Pine Pass (north) to Dawson Creek and still have > 10% charge left, this is all documented on my youtube channel (Tesla Prince). for Wh/km i believe it was 170-180. I've driven multiple times from Prince George to Calgary (via the icefields hwy) and its usually no problem (I drive from Jasper to Canmore).
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Xelloss99
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The speed limit is 90 km/h (~55 mph) on the Icefields Parkway other than some slower sections near park gates, intersections, etc.Just posting more ABRP numbers doesn't make them start to make sense
I'd be very confident I could make that drive in an X100D even with a 5-10% degraded battery as long as it was summer and I was going in the downhill direction. Just drive 50-60mph, go easy on the HVAC, and drive during the warmth of the day. I believe the speed limit is only 100kph on that highway.
Xelloss99
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There's no cell service south of Jasper until the Highway 1 junction other than a bit around Lake Louise, so tools like TeslaFi or TeslaMate won't have charting information. Jasper to Saskatchewan Crossing is uphill, and Saskatchewan Crossing to Canmore is downhill. The energy graph only averages a max of 50 km so it will matter which section you take the photo on, I have a photo south of Lake Louise but that doesn't do any good in this context as it is on the downhill section. Though using a trip meter and resetting it at one end and getting the average on the other end would get an average over the trip but I didn't think to do that.
scottf200
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Good points. In my travels, I have been in a few places that lose my TeslaFI data due to AT&T Tesla coverage.
I'm looking forward to visiting Jasper and would hope to be able to do the loop (below)
I was thinking about the energy app Trip tab vs the Consumption tab.
M109Rider
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I have the same car, only 500km range being a 2018.
I’ve done Canmore to Jasper on one charge no problem.
I generally travel solo, but I'm a big guy so probably similar weight to the average couple. The kW/mi question is too broad and unnecessary imo. For the sake of comparison, I think it's better just to use rated miles (or kilometres) as they normalise for the different models. I also think the up and down factor of mountain traveling is generally overrated as a battery drain. Basically every mountainous drive has up and down like this. There could be some extreme examples, but this isn't one of them. One thing I do keep in mind is big elevation climbs just prior to a supercharger. If the supercharger is in a deep valley, sometimes you only need to make it to the top of a hill or mountain pass and then you gain more range with the regen prior to getting to the supercharger. I've encountered this at the Dalles, OR (coming from the south) and Baker, CA (coming from Vegas).
Anyways, I'm not saying this is an easy drive by any means. But an X100D in summer with a driver that is paying attention should be able to make it. If it were a performance version or had the bigger tires that would be a lot tougher. And of course a lot of weight or a headwind would be a problem too. It's definitely a lot different with a large family and all the gear than it is as a solo driver or even a couple. There's also a lot more downside risk when you have the whole family.
This is very common on the AlCan. They've improved the route over time by carving some new shortcuts.Lol, from 70 Mile House to 150 Mile house is 72 miles. Shrinkage?
Cheers!
My 2015 MS with 435 max range once did Canmore to Jasper with 100 km left in the tank
.. and I think I charged it to 400 and drove speed limit. The trip is only 310, so I basically did EPA.
Xelloss99
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More photos from site, from Electric Vehicle Association of Alberta Facebook group.
According to one comment
"I spoke to the crew and they said they'd be finishing the install in Jasper in the next couple of weeks, and then off to install Edson. No estimate for operational date though!"
According to one comment
"I spoke to the crew and they said they'd be finishing the install in Jasper in the next couple of weeks, and then off to install Edson. No estimate for operational date though!"
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Vancity-Tes1a
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Awesome to see! Funny they say no estimate for operational date. If not BC Hydro then I wonder who certifies/turns on AB chargers.
Because we all know BC Hydro is lagging behind turning on these chargers haha
Xelloss99
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Atco covers the areas where the Jasper, Vegreville, and Lloydminster Superchargers are going in. I'm guessing Epcor will probably be covering the Edson area.
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Atco already installed the Jasper transformer even before the Supercharger install.
X-Men
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