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This is a friendly contest for Tesla owners to track the number of unique public Superchargers where they have charged

- "Supercharger count" is the number of unique public Superchargers where you have charged (just being there does not count), whether or not you were the person plugging in the vehicle (such as a Valet Parking garage or a Passenger) and whether or not it was your own personal vehicle (such as a rental, a loaner, or a friend's Tesla) as long as you were the one who drove >50% of the distance to reach the charger(s).
- The list of chargers in the supercharging.life database are the ones included in the game. If you think one should be added or removed from the list, let us know.
- Only chargers available to the public without special permission are included in the game.
- Chargers not connected to the grid are not counted.
- Doublet locations like the North/South Supercharger 'pairs' in CT, ME, NH, etc. count as individual locations.
- More than 1 charger at the same address, such as Lenox Square Mall (Atlanta, GA) or Montgomery Mall (Bethesda, MD) count as individual locations when they appear as a separate location on the Tesla Nav screen.
- Inactive competitors will be archived and removed from the leaderboard. Just post an update to be reactivated.

See Supercharging.Life database for info on how to post your own visits to the database (preferred), or post your locations with date visited to this thread and one of the admins will update your list for you. All visits must be posted to this thread - not just entered in supercharging.life. If you are the first in the game to visit a supercharger location, please post to the thread as soon as you can so others know it has been visited.
 
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For those traveling MT and points north, snow expected on Beartooth Highway tomorrow!
One year I got snow on I-90 in Montana on September 1st. Not even that high an elevation. I stayed in Casper that night and there was a solid dusting of close to an inch covering the cars and the parking lot when I went to bed that night. It was gone by the time I woke up.
 
We have some issues to debate with Alpharetta and Lenox Square.

Alpharetta is a 2-stall urban supercharger in the parking lot behind a service center. There don't appear to be any gates and I was able to charge there on a Sunday afternoon so it does appear to be open to the public 24/7. But the supercharger is not listed in the Nav and I don't think it ever will be. It's pretty clear to me that the intention of this mini-supercharger is for use by the service center. The only difference between this and other similar SC superchargers is that it isn't behind closed doors and is available 24/7. I would suspect they may put a gate up at some point. It did seem kind of weird that there were hundreds of Teslas just parked out in the open on a day when the SC was closed. I didn't even see a security guard and I was there for an hour.

Lastly, it's also a potentially very annoying and difficult supercharger to get. When I was there I had to wait 40 minutes. One of the stalls was blocked by an apparently abandoned Model S (presumably no idle fees here!) and the other was occupied by a guy who wanted to charge to full. I tried to politely hint that I only needed to plug in for a minute, but he didn't offer to move and I didn't want to press the issue. Keep in mind this was on a Sunday. It would likely be worse on weekdays with the service center employees using the stalls.


Lenox Square has 2 separate supercharging locations. The main location is in the parking garage and is 16 stalls and is up and running. No issues there. The one that isn't open yet is 5 stalls and appears to be in a valet lot. This is a huge property and these locations are in opposite corners of the property, probably about a half mile apart. But since it is one big mall, one could argue that they have the same address and are thus just one location. Of course we have all paid for parking to use superchargers before, but it would seem particularly silly to have to pay to valet when there is another supercharger location on the same property. Anyways, the question here is whether we count these as just one location or 2 separate locations.

I'm curious what you guys think about these two situations and what should be counted and what shouldn't. Please comment.
 
We already had the Alpharetta debate when I got it on opening day. As I recall, the determining factor was proposed to be whether it was available 24/7. I had said I thought it would be tough to get as the place got busier.

Sounds like the co-location of Lenox Square would make it be worth one similar to Lonetree in Denver. Riverside now has two locations in the parking garage—top and bottom, perhaps one a valet location. I personally don’t want to ever valet as part of the competition.
 
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We already had the Alpharetta debate when I got it on opening day. As I recall, the determining factor was proposed to be whether it was available 24/7.

Ha! I'm only 40 but my memory is already starting to go :) Just went back and read our discussion on that one and I guess I still agree with our conclusions. Just wish I would have remembered that discussion before I went there today! I was actually caught off guard and didn't realize it was only 2 stalls until I was on my way there from Lenox. Had I remembered, I think I would have forced myself to drive deeper into the night to hit Lenox and Alpharetta before going to bed. Lenox would have been a lot easier in the wee hours as well. As it was, I crashed for the night in Athens, fought some traffic (mostly weekend mall traffic) to get to Lenox and then had to sit there and wait at Alpharetta.

I might be biased since I'm a night owl but I don't really mind the "hard to get" superchargers as long as they are open 24/7, because I can always just plan on hitting them at really off hours. Unfortunately I failed to follow my own strategy this time with Alpharetta and it cost me an hour.
 
For those traveling MT and points north, snow expected on Beartooth Highway tomorrow!

One year I got snow on I-90 in Montana on September 1st. Not even that high an elevation. I stayed in Casper that night and there was a solid dusting of close to an inch covering the cars and the parking lot when I went to bed that night. It was gone by the time I woke up.

Aw man, the ONE time that I'm not heading past Beartooth on my trip toward the PNW too. Two previous trips had to divert away from Beartooth because it was closed and I keep hoping one of these trips will give me a chance to hit it. On the flip side, I should be able to hit Independence Pass again on a trip from Aspen to Boulder this time so this will be my 2nd time over the pass and 3rd time through Leadville in the last 4 trips through that area.
 
We have some issues to debate with Alpharetta and Lenox Square.

Alpharetta is a 2-stall urban supercharger in the parking lot behind a service center. There don't appear to be any gates and I was able to charge there on a Sunday afternoon so it does appear to be open to the public 24/7. But the supercharger is not listed in the Nav and I don't think it ever will be. It's pretty clear to me that the intention of this mini-supercharger is for use by the service center. The only difference between this and other similar SC superchargers is that it isn't behind closed doors and is available 24/7. I would suspect they may put a gate up at some point. It did seem kind of weird that there were hundreds of Teslas just parked out in the open on a day when the SC was closed. I didn't even see a security guard and I was there for an hour.

Lastly, it's also a potentially very annoying and difficult supercharger to get. When I was there I had to wait 40 minutes. One of the stalls was blocked by an apparently abandoned Model S (presumably no idle fees here!) and the other was occupied by a guy who wanted to charge to full. I tried to politely hint that I only needed to plug in for a minute, but he didn't offer to move and I didn't want to press the issue. Keep in mind this was on a Sunday. It would likely be worse on weekdays with the service center employees using the stalls.


Lenox Square has 2 separate supercharging locations. The main location is in the parking garage and is 16 stalls and is up and running. No issues there. The one that isn't open yet is 5 stalls and appears to be in a valet lot. This is a huge property and these locations are in opposite corners of the property, probably about a half mile apart. But since it is one big mall, one could argue that they have the same address and are thus just one location. Of course we have all paid for parking to use superchargers before, but it would seem particularly silly to have to pay to valet when there is another supercharger location on the same property. Anyways, the question here is whether we count these as just one location or 2 separate locations.

I'm curious what you guys think about these two situations and what should be counted and what shouldn't. Please comment.


We already had the Alpharetta debate when I got it on opening day. As I recall, the determining factor was proposed to be whether it was available 24/7. I had said I thought it would be tough to get as the place got busier.

Sounds like the co-location of Lenox Square would make it be worth one similar to Lonetree in Denver. Riverside now has two locations in the parking garage—top and bottom, perhaps one a valet location. I personally don’t want to ever valet as part of the competition.


Ha! I'm only 40 but my memory is already starting to go :) Just went back and read our discussion on that one and I guess I still agree with our conclusions. Just wish I would have remembered that discussion before I went there today! I was actually caught off guard and didn't realize it was only 2 stalls until I was on my way there from Lenox. Had I remembered, I think I would have forced myself to drive deeper into the night to hit Lenox and Alpharetta before going to bed. Lenox would have been a lot easier in the wee hours as well. As it was, I crashed for the night in Athens, fought some traffic (mostly weekend mall traffic) to get to Lenox and then had to sit there and wait at Alpharetta.

I might be biased since I'm a night owl but I don't really mind the "hard to get" superchargers as long as they are open 24/7, because I can always just plan on hitting them at really off hours. Unfortunately I failed to follow my own strategy this time with Alpharetta and it cost me an hour.


Nice timing that you guys hit some recent locations on or within a day or two of opening day. That is not easy to do when on a lengthy road trip. Heck, that's not easy to do even when you are local to a supercharger.

I agree that any 24x7 Publicly-accessible location is fair game for the contest. At the moment, Alpharetta should be no different than the Service Center location in Montreal that has 2 superchargers right at the front door that are not behind gates and similarly like the Service Center location in Toronto that IS behind a gate but I doubt it is ever closed to the superchargers (but maybe it is).

The locations I really wish would be listed as optional are the Parking Garages and anywhere else that are NOT 24x7 such as New York City (Manhattan, Brooklyn, etc.) where the garage is only open from 6 AM to Midnight. This is separate from the Mott Street location that is "Permit holders only" but maybe having only 18 hrs a day to get them is also part of the challenge. I think a garage in Chicago is also only open from 4 AM or 6 AM to Midnight but maybe you can call the local Security to have them let you in so technically it is available 24x7 even if the gate doesn't open automatically 24x7.

The non-24x7 ones can still be an available charger to visit but are just more difficult because they aren't 24x7.


As far as listing Lenox as a single or dual site I would lobby for a single site and REALLY wish that Mt Shasta would be combined to a single site as well. What is it ... 500 ft apart from the other? Come on, if a North / South location on a CT or MA Turnpike can be MILES apart and counted as the same location then how in on Earth can a site just 500 ft apart be counted as a separate location????? In my mind, anything on the same complex or plot of land (Lonetree, CO or Mt Shasta, CO or Atlanta - Lenox Square, GA) should be considered the same location.

I wasn't aware of the Lonetree dual location as it wasn't listed on Plugshare or supercharge.info or the Nav screen as such so when I was there I only visited the one out in the parking lot and not the one around the corner in a parking garage structure or wherever it is and if it is suddenly listed as a separate location then I won't be very pleased when I was already there.
 
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What happens when they "move" a location. Open a new one nearby, close the old one, and Tesla keeps the same name?

Darien N-S are a couple of miles apart, but they are numbered by Tesla as a single 8-stall location. Would that be a way to determine if they are separate supercharger locations - by the Tesla numbering scheme?

I'm not sure I agree with the 24/7 rule. This from someone who regularly drives through the night. It is all part of the planning - says the one who accidentally visited repeats... :)
 
Darien N-S are a couple of miles apart, but they are numbered by Tesla as a single 8-stall location. Would that be a way to determine if they are separate supercharger locations - by the Tesla numbering scheme?

I don't recommend using the stall numbering as a way of counting the same or different location as I've seen dozens and dozens of stalls that are not numbered or it was removed or vandalized.


What happens when they "move" a location. Open a new one nearby, close the old one, and Tesla keeps the same name?

Each area probably has its own unique circumstances that need to be evaluated. The original Aurora, IL was a 2-stall setup on pallets in the parking lot of the Brewpub near the Riverboat Casino. The current North Aurora, IL location is several miles away and a permanent location. They are 6 miles apart and definitely a different location. I visited the original temp location so I can count them both.

The one at Lonetree, CO should still be counted as the same location since it never left the Mall where it was. Let's say the Mall of America adds one on the south side then a year later moves it to the complete opposite side. It's STILL at the Mall of America even if it is 1/2 mile away. Or DFW Airport puts one on their property and later moves it 2 full miles to the other side of the airport where a new parking garage and terminal might be. That should still be counted as the same location. It might have a different address but it is still considered to be AT the DFW Airport. Now, if they move it 1/2 mile off the property to a nearby shopping mall then it would be considered a new location (in my mind).

Darien, CT northbound is about 2.5 miles away from the southbound one but these have long been counted as the same location so they are probably grandfather'ed in as well as all other New England doublet locations like that and I'm fine with that as to hit the other side of the road might mean 10-20 miles and an additional toll to reach it and then 10-20 miles and yet another toll to get back to the way you were originally heading.

if Kansas City, KS and Kansas City, MO could both install a supercharger at the same mall and 25 ft from each other but would have different states as their address. Those should be counted as the same location since they are physically at the same property, business, etc. I doubt it would happen but it could.

This is why I keep lobbying that Mt Shasta should only be counted as 1 location. Wouldn't it be the same if they closed one of those locations later this year and only kept 1 location? That's the same as closing the old one and having a new one it's just that they are both existing for 9+ months. Either way, they are at the same Strip Mall / Hotel complex. I'll be hitting both of them in 2 weeks so it might be moot but I still say they should only be counted as a single location.


I'm not sure I agree with the 24/7 rule. This from someone who regularly drives through the night. It is all part of the planning - says the one who accidentally visited repeats... :)

Let's flip it the other way and say that you work 3rd shift and sleep during the day. Now when you take vacation, your "day" will be 11 pm to 7 am and then a few hours either side of a typical 3rd shift timeframe. For THAT person, they have a bunch that are limited such as Manhattan as it'd be very difficult for them to get there between 6 am and Midnight when their "8-hr work day" is 11 pm to 7 am or visiting Service Centers or Malls that are closed at night and have cars blocking them since it isn't during Business Hours. To that person though, it IS their "Business hours" in the day.
 
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Well...I'll throw another argument out there. Mt Shasta #2 is in a different location AND went live YEARS after the first one. The east coast N-S pairs went in pretty much at the same time. And it isn't a N-S thing. You actually could be going E-W. ;)

If gates go in at Alpharetta and not open 24/7, does that mean it is lost to those who haven't yet hit it? (Cleveland, Sysosset)

Not griping really, as I expect to be perennial fifth...
 
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Well...I'll throw another argument out there. Mt Shasta #2 is in a different location <snip>

If I hear that Mt Shasta #2 is "at a different location" just ONE more time ... well ... (I'm picturing the "Shenanigans" scene from "Supertroopers)

Let me just point out that the 2nd location is only 435 ft away from the 1st location. So if they put a 3rd one in the southern corner of the Mt Shasta Shopping Center you are saying that one should be considered as a 3rd location at Mt Shasta? Or if they put one on the southern side of the Tree House business then THAT one should be considered a 4th separate location at Mt Shasta? They'd all be no more than 435 ft apart. They aren't even across a divided highway like an Interstate or Turnpike but just a small access road to the plaza.

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<snip>AND went live YEARS after the first one. The east coast N-S pairs went in pretty much at the same time. And it isn't a N-S thing. You actually could be going E-W. ;)

The "years later" doesn't really make a bit of difference to me. It's physically at the same location, same 'general' location, same spot. It's difficult to even notice that they are different locations on any map or nav until you zoom WAY in. They could put a new one up in the Lake Street Gas Station at the top of that photo and I'd still say it should be counted as a general "Mt Shasta" location and not yet another new location.

If they had numbered the 2nd location stalls as a continuation of the 1st one would you still consider it a new location?

If Baker or Kettleman City add 20 more to their 40 stall location and have it 435 ft away and across the small access road, you're saying THOSE should be considered an entirely new location? I certainly don't think they should.


If gates go in at Alpharetta and not open 24/7, does that mean it is lost to those who haven't yet hit it? (Cleveland, Sysosset)

Not griping really, as I expect to be perennial fifth...

Yes. It would be no different than Cleveland (Lyndhurst) or Aurora or Syosset or Bethesda. The Old School folks had a chance at those
chargers and at the time they could be counted so there's no reason they shouldn't still be counted. It does mean that if one of the veterans hits all of the currently-open chargers (let's say there are 600 open) then they COULD have a count that is higher like 605 or 610 because they were able to add some that are now closed.