theslimshadyist
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Why are you concerned? Don't you have unlimited SC?
I do but I was just curious how this would all work out for those who aren't as fortunate to have free for life charging.
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Why are you concerned? Don't you have unlimited SC?
As I sit here getting 121 amps 344 volts at a Chademo to avoid traffic, I wondered, if Tesla is charging similar to EVGO on monthly plan, and Tesla says they will not be making profit, then how will EVGO make enough money to expand?Roughly speaking, Tesla is going to charge a very similar price to EVGO (fast DC charging using their Chademo) in California.
The cents per minute of charge policy is not so great for the small battery cars that supercharge at a much slower rate than the big batteries. So here in Arizona, the Model 3 and Model S 60 and 70 owners will pay a lot more to supercharge than the big battery S and X owners. Not very fair but perhaps there is no decent alternative.
We don't know that yet. My guess is there will be some sort of add-on, at least for performance models.It seems fair. But I am still sad that there won't be any kind of unlimited supercharging add-on at time of purchase.
Thank you for the visualization with the graphs!However, average cost per kWh (dark blue) levels out during the charge to approach a nearly constant value of about 10.5-11 ¢/kWh. This corresponds with the final numbers from the charge: $6.48 total cost for 58.9 kWh added.
This is incorrect. FYI.I believe I read that all of Model S's charge at the same "percentage" rate?
Overall costs are very inexpensive: $6.48 for the entire charge for 196.3 rated miles added = average of 3.3 ¢ per rated mile. Compared to a relatively fuel-efficient ICE that gets 32 MPG highway, this is equivalent to paying $1.05 per gallon of gasoline. (This assumes you can achieve rated miles efficiency in the Telsa. Weather/elevation/temperature can affect this and increase cost).
I'm not familiar with charge times on a classic 60, but I believe I read that all of Model S's charge at the same "percentage" rate? So using the same scenario, but with a 60 the cost should be the same, correct? So $6.48 for a fill up, but the cost per mile would be worse because you obviously can't travel as far in a 60 as you can in an 85?
Incorrect. All A pack 85s are grandfathered into fee-less supercharging.Old A-pack 85s are at a disadvantage, they are limited to 90 kW maximum = higher avg ¢/kWh
Incorrect. All A pack 85s are grandfathered into fee-less supercharging.
Unless they get resold as CPO. Also applies to old 60s resold as CPO.
I'm assuming that if a previously grandfathered free-supercharging vehicle goes through the CPO program after 1/15/2017 (e.g. traded in or lease ended), that it will no longer have free supercharging but will instead have the pay-for-supercharging program like new vehicles. If this isn't the case, then yes, those advantage/disadvantage considerations would never apply.
Maybe we need to watch the CPO pages to see if Tesla advertises the vehicles as "with free for life supercharging" or not.
And all of the old 60s should be grandfathered as well, although the handful that don't yet have Supercharger access might be exceptions.Incorrect. All A pack 85s are grandfathered into fee-less supercharging.
Tesla confirmed that you will still be able to get the perk with its Certified Pre-Owned (CPOs) vehicles if they were originally purchased with Supercharging access.
This is what I was looking at... http://i.imgur.com/J1GoBSn.gifThis is incorrect. FYI.
This is what I was looking at... http://i.imgur.com/J1GoBSn.gif
I guess its not exactly the same percentage rate, but looks fairly close.
lagann has stories about that.I like how it mentions supercharging in the rain or snow, but no mention of supercharging during a thunderstorm.
I don't interpret it that way. Any tesla purchased WITH supercharging. CPO though are originally purchased with supercharging for the original owner. The CPO are NOT purchased with supercharging. So it is wholly possible they claim CPO was purchased without supercharging. So we will have to wait and see what other CPO purchaser will say after the cutoff date.Incorrect ... Tesla’s Certified Pre-Owned vehicles still have unlimited free Supercharging, says Tesla President
Tesla confirmed that you will still be able to get the perk with its Certified Pre-Owned (CPOs) vehicles if they were originally purchased with Supercharging access.
It wasn’t exactly clear since Tesla had removed any mention of Supercharging from all the listings on its CPO website after the announcement of the new ‘Supercharging Credit’ program, but Tesla’s President of Sales, Jon McNeill, confirmed the information on Twitter today. He confirmed that “all Teslas purchased with Supercharging for life carry that benefit for the life of the car
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