Sunday to Monday so before peoples commute on Monday.
Not for the 99's though. We'll be forced to wait another day or two.
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Tesla’s FSD Beta 10.3 Coming This Friday 10-22-2021
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Not for the 99's though. We'll be forced to wait another day or two.
Of course, it's all relative and based on personal preference. However, since I don't have anything approaching perfect information on which to base a deeply informed decision, I will -- with open eyes -- accept Tesla's invitation to join the beta with version 10.3 given my safety score of 99.
We'll need to remain vigilant and avoid overconfidence in the reliability of FSD while it seems to perform really well, but in fact still has lots of issues than can surprise us at the worst possible moments while we're inattentive if we trust it too much. I'm happy that Tesla is now using the internal camera to help mitigate this very real risk.
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Yup! What Tesla is doing is super difficult, impressive, and scalable. Relying on LIDAR for Level 5 autonomy on any road without advanced detailed mapping =
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When they released 10.2 to the 100’s Elon said at 1am 10/9 that they were postponing it because of last minute concerns and it would be released “Sunday or Monday” and they released it at 12 midnight Sunday and Elon tweeted so at 1:00 am Monday. So my educated guess is between midnight Sunday and 1am Monday (California time)
Beta has been out for a YEAR. They are not going to solve even most, much less all for a WHILE.
We should also remember that lots of what was presented on AI Day is aspirational. It was a recruiting event to attract people to work on the problem. Dojo is not online yet. Machine labeling is not happening yet. Do not expect v11 to be miraculously better. If v11 is just a designation for single stack, we may see regressions on highway AP behavior (but hopefully improvements to parking lots and summon). Run of the mill FSD driving may feel very similar to 10.2 or 10.3. IMO it will be a few years before FSD becomes a reliable L2 system where we have to worry about driver complacency.
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If they were "done" and just didn't quite fit into a single HW3 node that'd be reasonable to think they could fix that with some code optimization.
But they're using most of both nodes now, and quite obviously are nowhere near done. The NNs keep getting larger and more complex to add more capability and competence (and to replace what was previously just simple static C code)
The idea they'll somehow add everything they need for L4 in the space they have left and then somehow shrink it in at least half, seems pretty magical at this point.
Absolutely.... certainly it's possible that after going down this path for a while they find they have to do another deep rewrite and we're kind of back to square one on knowing what's up with compute needs.
But if they don't and just keep improving the path they're on I don't see how they both get to L4, and get it all to fix back into one HW3 node.
(then again I also don't see how they ever get past L2 or L3 without a least 2 more cameras either)
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Since his tweet was at 6:43am on Saturday and they're just fixing the left turn at traffic lights (small fix hopefully). I would bet on Sunday morning (fingers cross) I'm still enjoy using 10.2 FSD Beta
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They were promised L4, FWIW, not 5.
The description said the car could drive in "almost all" situations, not all of em,
This incorrect on two fronts.
For one, it's already legal in a bunch of US states.
There's no "regulation" to wait on- if it worked today they could release it today.
For elsewhere, the sales process explicitly told the buyers they'd be stuck waiting on regulatory approval, so they promised exactly what you'd get and specifically pointed that fact out.
... if it worked with HW4, but not 3, then they'd just swap in HW4.
Again this does not make sense.
It's legal right now in some places.
They can't claim their software delivers L4 but the regulators are stopping them- because the regulators already legalized it in those places.
There's no "card" to pull here, it's literally not a valid way to get out of anything. At all.
So... they'll upgrade the computers.... but.... there won't be an upgrade of computers?
You're having as much trouble picking a lane as FSDBeta!
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How does that help?
Currently the highway stack only runs on the highway, and the city streets code runs when off the highway.
Apart from which, they were already out of compute in 1 node before city streets came along
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Which ones?
Again they were out of single-node compute before city streets was even running and nothing was running via NNs except perception then.
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