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Tesla Alternative?
- Thread starter GarethWhyte
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glad to see someone in the same position...
i just add rattles and other *sugar* to the mix...
my main reason to go with tesla was network as I was not sure how I am going to deal with it.
Now I see that it is not a biggie
Jason71
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Ill give you Instavolt but Genie? Really? You need an app for most of them still and its awful. When i was in Devon the nearest 3 Rapids were Genie. All broken.
WannabeOwner
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Fair enough, but I don't think that "quite good" is anything like good enough - but actually sounds like your experience has been faultless?
My experiences have been dire, but using Supercharger network I rarely need other brands, so not enough personal experience to be representative. But (from curiosity) I do look at user-comments on Plugshare and Zap-Map and its disappointing how many (recent) failed-charges there are - and also the length of time before repair.
I have had an intended Supercharger go off line - SatNav told me and routed to a different one. That was pretty cool - but of course I had range for the alternate. Its only happened once
I've charged at Superchargers nearly 150 times and over 4,000 kWh (TeslaFi says ...). I've had to queue twice, and for no more than 5 or 10 minutes, and I've had a slow stall on two occasions (and just moved to a different stall).
The only Tesla Superchargers open to other brands in the UK are the ones that don't have much occupancy. I expect they will do the same in USA - not lease because USA has a lot of stalls to convert to Magic Dock (although Tesla they did similar to all chargers across the whole of EU when Model-3 first arrived (different plug in EU to prior Model-S/X) and that only took a few months). If Tesla won't get any public money (as is happening in California) I don't know whether they will be bothered to open all USA sites (i.e. "just for the revenue") if it costs them USP
That may change - in a number of EU countries they did "Infrequently used sites" and then "all" ... as might Tesla coming good on its promise of adding lots of UK Supercharger sites "soon".
I'm sceptical on the latter, but given how shiite all the other UK vendors are Tesla could clean up on charging if it just went balls-out. But here in UK you can't just throw up a site, getting the power to the site and a bunch of other things / red-tape take a long time (for many locations)
Which is - how often? You used only 6%. SC and out of this may be you used couple of times others? As @Jason71 mentioned you are statistically insignificant!
Every week I drive past Instavolt charge station on A168 - the location has 4 charging stations. haven't seen any of them not working during past year. Always someone is charging as well.
genie I encounter less often, but no issues as well.
but this will be even less relevant in the future when tesla will open all SC locations to others. so no biggie there guys
No. other 3 chargers are also available. sometimes all 4 are occupied and being charged.
sure dude
Zilla91
Active Member
I used a genie point charger at the local Morrisons when I first got my car and didn't have a charger installed yet. It was flawless.
Jason71
Well-Known Member
To be fair we are all statistically insignificant on this including my Devon Anecdote so lets look at some actual figures. In the autoExpress 2022 survey Genie was 8th out of 12
but the things that stopped them being lower were
a) locations, which if they don't work is not much help
b)customer service which needs to be good because the chargers don't work
Best electric car charging stations 2024: UK's top charger networks rated by EV owners | Auto Express
The bad, the good and the outstanding; you rank the major players in the expanding UK charging network
www.autoexpress.co.uk
Instavolt was 3rd and Tesla 1st for the record
Zilla91
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Bantam
Member
One Tesla alternative (to the Model X), is the Kia EV9. The info in the link below suggests its the First Kia to have their "Auto mode" option, which will be level 3 Autonomous driving, which will be improved over time via over the air updates.
EV9 first impressions
EV9 first impressions
Sean.
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