Go off grid shows in my app now too. working on multiple things atm but just wanted to confirm it was there for me now too.
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Tesla app version 4.0.0 has app re design for both car and energy
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Go off grid shows in my app now too. working on multiple things atm but just wanted to confirm it was there for me now too.
skepticcyclist
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BALANCED MODE IS GONE!!! This APP automatically changes balanced to cost savings.
Can verify. I can open the old APP on my iPad and switch to Balanced. It will remain on balance until I open the APP on my phone. Even without changing the settings, once I open this new version on my phone the settings on the old APP on my iPad changes to Cost Savings.
Can verify. I can open the old APP on my iPad and switch to Balanced. It will remain on balance until I open the APP on my phone. Even without changing the settings, once I open this new version on my phone the settings on the old APP on my iPad changes to Cost Savings.
The VPP change is gone. I wonder if I stumbled on something before it was ready. You heard it here first...
Bruce.
skepticcyclist
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Not gone for us in CAThe VPP change is gone. I wonder if I stumbled on something before it was ready. You heard it here first...
Bruce.
I'm in California. What I meant was I briefly saw a change in the mobile app related to signing up for the VPP program, along with some new terms and conditions (most notably $1/kWh payment), but now it's gone. I did get some screenshots so I know I wasn't imagining this.
Bruce.
skepticcyclist
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Amazingly the PG&E grids are not as big as they used to be, during a 3 days PSPS 3 years ago I could walk ½ mile downhill to a small mall to eat or get take out. Houses across the street is not even in the same grid as me, maybe they are in the same outage block for PSPS purpose but not for line/transformer damage. I have a V3 supercharger 5 minutes south of me and an urban charger 7 minutes north of me so no worries for me.
skepticcyclist
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Figured out why this happened and others reported the same thing. Because there’s no more balanced option the gateway was configured to time based control once I accessed the APP. Time based control now prioritizes load shifting. Even though that’s not allowed here, the new software probably isn’t aware of that.
With the old app, I could easily see all information on one graph out scroll down and see all production and consumption days on one screen. Now I have to toggle between 4 different graphs to see the same information.
Also with the new animation, you can no longer see the exact power flows. Before, I could tell when solar was going to the grid and the Powerwalls were discharging to the house. With the new animation, the two flows go through the meter and you can't tell where each is flowing to.
Generally speaking, this Power Flow is actually more accurate. It’s not that some current selectively goes from your Solar directly to the Grid and Powerwall power goes direct to home—it’s still all one system, and your loads all connect through the “hub” that is your load center/main panel/etc.
The previous power flow just did some creative storytelling to draw the lines.
Still on iOS App 3.10.14 here. Powerwall 21.20.6
My mode has flipped to Advanced Cost Saving when I'm sure it was Advanced Balanced before.
At the bottom of that page I now have Go Off-Grid and Pair Phone to Powerwall (which seems to be necessary for Go Off-Grid), which I don't remember seeing before.
So that feature doesn't require app 4.0
My mode has flipped to Advanced Cost Saving when I'm sure it was Advanced Balanced before.
At the bottom of that page I now have Go Off-Grid and Pair Phone to Powerwall (which seems to be necessary for Go Off-Grid), which I don't remember seeing before.
So that feature doesn't require app 4.0
skepticcyclist
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But you can still switch it back on the old APP. You can’t on the new APP. Yes, balanced still works when you switch it back. I tried it
skepticcyclist
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That’s why I use the AutarkieMan APP. It still shows the flowGenerally speaking, this Power Flow is actually more accurate. It’s not that some current selectively goes from your Solar directly to the Grid and Powerwall power goes direct to home—it’s still all one system, and your loads all connect through the “hub” that is your load center/main panel/etc.
The previous power flow just did some creative storytelling to draw the lines.
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Ah you're right. The help topics link seem to be for the 4.00 app, and the Time based Control section has no mention of Balanced vs Cost, so it's "deprecated".
So does that mean that since the 4.00 app now knows the exact TOU pricing the gateway can make better decisions than the old Balanced?
skepticcyclist
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I’m hoping. But when I opened the 4.0 version of the app during my shoulder period the flow switched from solar going to the house and excesss to the grid, as it does with balanced, it changed so all solar goes to the grid and PW to the house, as it does with Costsavings. I then had to open the older APP on another device and switch it back to balanced
ZBB
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Having used the new version a bit more, I'm feeling mixed on the changes. I like much of the new "look" and appreciate some of the new features. For example, I like how the backup % slider is now just a single one vs having the setting in multiple places (they inverted the process flow...). Being able to go off grid from the app is also nice (and now explains why that showed up in the Powerwall web page last month...). I also like that it shows how many hours of battery are remaining when you are off grid (its based on current home draw, so bounces around -- maybe add an option for instant or some sort of averages -- perhaps 5, 15 or 60 minute intervals?).
But some of the design details are honestly horrible:
- The house/flow diagram looks nice at first glance (and as Bruce pointed out using the Powerwall green line to display % full is a nice touch). But all the details are way too small -- especially the text. The kW #'s need lines and labels to indicate which one is which -- makes it much harder to see at a glance what the system is doing (the flow is still there, but the numbers are no longer in a + pattern...). I really appreciated the simplicity of the old flow graph -- looked great and was very easy to interpret at a glance. I would suggest zooming in a bit on the house and use a little bit less 3D perspective -- get rid of the 2nd bank of panels for example. That would make the Powerwall bigger (so the % graph isn't so tiny), and also give room to put the kW numbers on or directly next to each of the 4 quadrants.
- A lot has been said about the graphing screen. From a design point, there are a several things that really hurt it:
- The scale and legend is now on the right side of the graph takes up about 25% of the width of the screen -- giving less room for the graph. The "power production" or "power usage" labels could easily be moved above or below the graph (or removed entirely -- I think we get what each graph is...), giving more room for the actual graph.
- The scale only has peak, 0 and trough (for Powerwall charging or sending to grid) reference points and no longer has intermediate scale points. Makes you have to guess at how much output at any particular time during the day.
- The scale is dynamic based on which "source" is selected, so the top of one graph is not the same value as another graph. Makes it harder to compare -- especially since you can no longer select multiple overlays to see what's going on.
- There is a new toggle switch in the top right that kind-of gives overlays... but its not clear what that does other than the colors on the graph change to show the destination of production/grid draw or the source of power when looking at the whole home -- which is actually a very nice feature. But the toggle switch looks like an old audio equalizer and just is not clear what its for...
- Switching between day/week/month/year moved from being a down arrow near the "Today"/date label where a drop-down menu let you select which time period, to a separate toggle switch that shows what is selected. This is just bad use of space -- the old method was easy to find and use, and now I just get another button on the screen...
- Many of the touch targets / buttons are much smaller -- the icons for each source are less than half the size. I didn't feel they were in the way on the old UI. The new icons are also darker and harder to read (especially the grid "tower" icon -- dark gray on a black background is very hard to see)...
- I really miss the old-style overlays -- I usually kept solar, Powerwall and grid turned on and would often toggle between them to see what was going on...
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gcsutton
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Had same failed load. The APK installed fine though. Thanks!I had a failed Tesla app update on my Android devices yesterday. Someone posted the APK so hopefully it will show up in the official Play Store soon.
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