Really? I’ve used both and now have V9. Sure there are things I don’t like about V9. But to “detest” to that degree? I guess I have bigger problems in life to get riled up over. Woah is me. The added benefits of all the other upgrades far outweigh the V8 benefits IMHO. Heck, just the free ludicrous upgrade alone would cover it.
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Tesla forced an update of my P85D to 2019.16.2
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Really? I’ve used both and now have V9. Sure there are things I don’t like about V9. But to “detest” to that degree? I guess I have bigger problems in life to get riled up over. Woah is me. The added benefits of all the other upgrades far outweigh the V8 benefits IMHO. Heck, just the free ludicrous upgrade alone would cover it.
sublimejackman
Member
Man... This all seems crazy to me. I have MCU1 (AP2) so I would assume the software should (other than AP) function the same. I haven't experienced any major issue. Actually improved some of the problems I was having with V8. Like the phone not answering. Otherwise it seems to do the job just fine.
I've been on three 500+ mile road trips since upgrading. I have to say, despite all my other gripes about Tesla software, V9 FINALLY got the Route Planner estimate to be relatively close. In V8, it was alway dramatically incorrect, require ABRP to always be in the browser.
In the end, there are still some simple things Tesla can do that have driven me crazy for years now:
Why does media start playing on my phone when I open the back door? I load a bag, a kid, whatever and the entire car turns on. No car in history has ever done this, it makes no sense and is dumb. WTF?
Why is the wifi antenna in the mirror and for that matter why the hell does it work worse than my 6" smart phone. You have a land yacht to put an antenna(s) anywhere. WTF?
Lastly and probably to most frustrating, why does it take 30 seconds to answer a phone call? I click "answer" and 30 seconds later I hear the person on the other end saying "hello?" "Hello!" WTF?
Sentry, updated AP, dashcam. Not to mention the added hardware like new suspension, longer range, better performance.
Except that v9 won't change or improve any of the items you listed in an ap1 car.
The improved range is due to the new front motor. The improved suspension is also a hardware change. Neither has anything to do with v9.
Have you actually been reading this thread?
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I understand that it won’t help with an AP1 car.
My initial response to you was in regards to what you wrote: “I detest v9 so much that I cancelled plans to upgrade to the p100d when they announced to free ludicrous upgrade for existing Tesla openers.”
one liability question already added but the whole list should be addressed as there is potential for financial impact.
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sublimejackman
Member
Yeah. At this point I have to agree. Non-AP and AP1 cars don't really get anything out of V9 other than an interface designed for horizontal screens. The ONLY thing Tesla has sorta mentioned is the battery fire issue (which might not be a thing) and the new EU regs. Both of which could have been handled without forced updates from the V8 interface on older vehicles.
Saw this on my FB Feed.
I can't stand the fracking arrogance here stating nags have no purpose and think its clever to install oranges and other defeat devices.
THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS.
VIDEO: Driver apparently fast asleep while Tesla is on autopilot on 405 Fwy
What's up @wk057 ?
It takes WILLFUL effort to defeat the nag. When something happens like the above AND a violation happens, it should be a criminal offense.
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Not that it changes the consequences any, but (as I posted on Facebook) I honestly believe each and every one of these "asleep while on AP" videos are faked, pranks, or hoaxes by the driver just to freak out other people and get in the news like this. It's so easy to just "look asleep" while holding the wheel and driving normally.
Perhaps, I can’t confirm or deny either way. What I do know is the one time it doesn’t and people die is when every Tesla owner is guilty by association.
Given the constant nags, I've been thinking about installing a defeat device myself so I don't get nagged every 20 seconds. I suspect the idiot that fell asleep only did this because of the increased nag frequency.
Agreed. The old nag intervals were tolerable and a balance between treated like an adult vs driving with your mother. Getting excessively nagged just encourages people to find ways to defeat it.
The torque method was an afterthought and wasn't designed to sense driver attention. I'm surprised Tesla hasn't leveraged the cabin camera in the 3 for eye tracking. Maybe that would mean be admitting S/X implementations are flawed designs.
My car was updated from ver 8.1 to 9 (2019.16.3.2) sometime between yesterday afternoon and this morning without my consent or advance notification.
I am traveling a lot lately and had read that several people with 2012 or 2013 cars could no longer supercharge after updating to ver 9 due to a compatibility issue between the early cars on ver 9 and the first generation of superchargers. Thus, I stayed on ver 8.1 to avoid any potential problem. Needless to say, I will not be happy if I get stranded at an old supercharger because of this bug.
I’m also not pleased with the functionality of ver 9, in particular the need for numerous touchscreen presses to accomplish what took only one touchscreen press with ver 8.1.
I am traveling a lot lately and had read that several people with 2012 or 2013 cars could no longer supercharge after updating to ver 9 due to a compatibility issue between the early cars on ver 9 and the first generation of superchargers. Thus, I stayed on ver 8.1 to avoid any potential problem. Needless to say, I will not be happy if I get stranded at an old supercharger because of this bug.
I’m also not pleased with the functionality of ver 9, in particular the need for numerous touchscreen presses to accomplish what took only one touchscreen press with ver 8.1.
Tesla should have replaced/patched all gen 1 superchargers before v9 was released.
Voluntary or involuntary updates.
Rookie infrastructure move.
I would expect older software to not work but not have new software break things.
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Another reason to avoid V9 like the plague:
S85D sudden degradation
Not sure if it applies to batteries other than 85s but it according Tesla, they have intentionally locked out some capacity in order to add it to the reserve buffer resulting in a reduction in rated miles.
S85D sudden degradation
Not sure if it applies to batteries other than 85s but it according Tesla, they have intentionally locked out some capacity in order to add it to the reserve buffer resulting in a reduction in rated miles.
whitex
Well-Known Member
You sound like Elon's true blind believer if you buy into v9 magically updating people's suspension or motors.
