Skotty
2014 S P85 | 2023 F-150L
Ah man! And I just sat down with a big ice cold glass of orange. Why you gotta ruin my evening like that? Guess I gotta go back to A/C drippings now.
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dhanson865
Well-Known Member
If you see a significant variance from one outlet to another in your house it could be a wiring problem in the house, the outlet itself, or just a load imbalance of what you are running on one breaker. Whatever the highest stable voltage you get on any outlet in your house is what you should be seeing at all of them (give or take a volt, maybe two on a heavily loaded circuit).
If you see 120v on one and 114 on another it's time to shut off everything on that 114v circuit and figure out what isn't right. Ignoring this difference is how you get those articles about an EV setting a house on fire.
If you see the same 114v everywhere you have to start from the breakers, the utility connection (maybe call an electrician) and work your way out to the nearest transformer (utility pole or box in someones yard aka get your utility involved).
If it's outside of your house it is safer but is still costing you money. Devices in the home fail quicker and use more electricity if they are run at lower voltage than they are designed for.
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Yes, there was a discussion here earlier this year in which someone said their car charger was broken and half of the people replied assuming it was the charger in the car that he was referring to, and half of the replies were about what to do when the EVSE doesn't work. Some people didn't realize that other posts assumed the opposite. It turns out it was the EVSE that wasn't working.
Words matter if we're going to use them to communicate.
SageBrush
REJECT Fascism
Trivia for the day: It takes a little more than a teaspoon of EG to be fatal to humans. The Toyota stuff is 50% diluted with D2O though , so TWO teaspoons.Ah man! And I just sat down with a big ice cold glass of orange. Why you gotta ruin my evening like that? Guess I gotta go back to A/C drippings now.
dhanson865
Well-Known Member
I didn't have this on my work PC but I found it when I got home (from a prior reply on another thread where I had done the research in the past)
I can't say what year your state or local utility switched to 120v. But I sure know now that the spec is 120v plus or minus a percentage.
ANSI C84.1 Service Voltage Limits
Ø Range A minimum voltage is 95% of nominal voltage
Ø Range A maximum voltage is 105% of nominal voltage
Notice that is 5% above or below. Nothing about 110V being OK.
114V is 5% below nominal
110V is over 8% below nominal.
I don't want to hammer anyone in specific but at the same time I want everyone to know 110v at a house in the US can be a sign of something very wrong no matter how many people say 110v when they mean 120v.
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Hey, I don't like the terminology either but we're stuck with it. As enthusiasts or people who know better, let's use the right terminology.
I'm ok w/other alternative commonly used terminology for an L1 or L2 EVSE such as charging station, charging dock and in some cases, trickle charge cable, (trickle) charging cord/cord set, etc. Just don't call it a charger when it's not a charger.
Tesla just refers to their L1/L2 EVSEs as connectors (e.g. Model S/X Wall Connector and Model S/X Mobile Connector Bundle).
Exactly. Per July 2017 Dashboard - HybridCars.com, the battery electric take rate of vehicle sales in the US was 0.55% of total US auto sales.
And, other people do stupid stuff like buying 30 or 40 amp L2 EVSEs in the hopes it'll charge their 3.3 kW OBC car (16 amp max) faster. And, as I've pointed out to others, not understanding the difference between OBC, EVSE, max vehicle acceptance rate and max station (EVSE) delivery rate could mean buying the wrong vehicle, wrong equipment level or wasting a ton of $ on unnecessary electrical upgrades,
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From FAQ – Chademo Association and earlier references like http://www.chademo.com/pdf/What'sCHAdeMO.pdf
CHAdeMO is one of at least 6 plug-incompatible DC fast charge plug standards in the world. TonyWilliams had put up pics at mychevysparkev.com but unfortunately, I believe the images got held hostage by Photobucket.
The 6 I'm talking about are: Tesla's North American connector, Tesla's connector for Europe (modified Mennekes Type 2), CHAdeMO, Combo1 (aka SAE Combo) flavor of CCS for North America, Combo2 flavor of CCS for Europe, and China's GB/T standard.
Wow this thread was derailed pretty quick....
Anyway, not to encourage anyone, but I'm kinda pissed the max charger is only 48amps. I was kind of planning on using the 3 for ride sharing (if I even get one) and charging it at 48amps will make that hard. (because you charge every chance you get, and every mile helps) Yes supercharging is an option, but those are crowded enough already. It would be nice to charge at 80amps like I can in my current Tesla.
Not everyone has a standard 9-5 job.
Also before you jump all over about the "Tesla Network" legal stuff, until FSD is reality (years from now) I don't think using a Model 3 on Uber/Lyft will be a problem.
So that's why I wish the 3 had a faster onboard charger.
Anyway, not to encourage anyone, but I'm kinda pissed the max charger is only 48amps. I was kind of planning on using the 3 for ride sharing (if I even get one) and charging it at 48amps will make that hard. (because you charge every chance you get, and every mile helps) Yes supercharging is an option, but those are crowded enough already. It would be nice to charge at 80amps like I can in my current Tesla.
Not everyone has a standard 9-5 job.
Also before you jump all over about the "Tesla Network" legal stuff, until FSD is reality (years from now) I don't think using a Model 3 on Uber/Lyft will be a problem.
So that's why I wish the 3 had a faster onboard charger.
ModelNforNerd
Active Member
LOL.....so what if the car that can make or break the company gets a superfluous piece of equipment, cutting into the thin margins the company needs to thrive......
Mods, you can move my response to Snippiness if you feel the need, but this is probably the dumbest thing I've read post-reveal, other than the caterwauling about the 2 people left in the world who want a Model 3, but don't have a smartphone to open it with.
ModelNforNerd
Active Member
If your state's insurance laws are anything like mine, you're going to need to Uber 25 hours/day just to pay the bump in your insurance costs.
From FAQ – Chademo Association and earlier references like http://www.chademo.com/pdf/What'sCHAdeMO.pdf
CHAdeMO is one of at least 6 plug-incompatible DC fast charge plug standards in the world. TonyWilliams had put up pics at mychevysparkev.com but unfortunately, I believe the images got held hostage by Photobucket.
The 6 I'm talking about are: Tesla's North American connector, Tesla's connector for Europe (modified Mennekes Type 2), CHAdeMO, Combo1 (aka SAE Combo) flavor of CCS for North America, Combo2 flavor of CCS for Europe, and China's GB/T standard.
LOL yeah, I know... I was posting from the standpoint of the rest of my comment: What's the average dude gonna say/think?
This place needs [SARCASM] tags.
hill
high fiber member
(sigh) least incompatible .... drives me nuts when I read double negatives. So you're actually saying it's the most compatible
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(sigh) least incompatible .... drives me nuts when I read double negatives. So you're actually saying it's the most compatible
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True that CHAdeMO is a world standard unlike say CCS w/its two flavors.(sigh) least incompatible .... drives me nuts when I read double negatives. So you're actually saying it's the most compatible
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What I meant by "is one of at least 6 plug-incompatible DC fast charge" is that there are at least 6 DC FC plug standards, all of which are plug incompatible with each other. In other words, I know of these 6. There could be more.
There are two reasons incomparable standards exist. One is that the standards aren't finalized--that's why Tesla has its own. Making products to a non-finalized standard is as likely to end up with an incompatible format as making what seems right. The other is limiting competition. An example of this is the European metric tire sizes and the North American P-metric sizes. The P-metric tires were specifically developed so that European tire companies couldn't sell to the North American auto manufacturers without investing in new equipment.
hill
high fiber member
I wish that I too, was so important, that people wanted & needed to know whose thoughts I deemed worthy enough to deserve my attention - & who i ignored.
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