-
Want to remove ads? Register an account and login to see fewer ads, and become a Supporting Member to remove almost all ads.
Tesla in Australia
- Thread starter PeterW
- Start date
-
- Tags
- Australia New Zealand
timpoo
Member
Not many people compare the Model S 60kwh version to other cars in Australia - so I've done a rough job:
What can you get for a Tesla Model S 60 in Australia — JET Charge
You may or may not be interested
What can you get for a Tesla Model S 60 in Australia — JET Charge
You may or may not be interested
MDK
Aussie Member
There's a guy elsewhere on the forum that said his wife often uses the mobile app to find out where his Tesla is parked during the day, drives out there in her car and takes the Tesla for a joyride, leaving him her oil-burner to drive home.
She thinks it's hilarious, he not so much...
#firstworldproblems
Dborn
Confirmed
Well, my take-home from the conference call last week. Some of the commonly reported technical problems reported are likely to have been fixed on our cars, hums, drive train issues and coolant pumps as well as 12v battery issues. One of the advantages of waiting this long i suppose.
BUT, DELIVERIES!! From coming off the production line, Elon stated that for North America, 2 weeks was the average delivery time. For International orders, add 3-4 weeks to that. That would accord with my knowledge of the shipping industry. From a practical point of view, the factory comes back on line Tuesday our time. For us to take delivery in Q3, which i feel sure that the company would like, our cars HAVE to come off the production line by the 14th August at the latest, and that would be pushing it. So folks, if our cars have not gone into production in the next 10 to 12 days, forget a September delivery, except of course, for those lucky few whose cars are complete and in transit. For the rest of us, including low numbered sigs, i think the above is true.
BUT, DELIVERIES!! From coming off the production line, Elon stated that for North America, 2 weeks was the average delivery time. For International orders, add 3-4 weeks to that. That would accord with my knowledge of the shipping industry. From a practical point of view, the factory comes back on line Tuesday our time. For us to take delivery in Q3, which i feel sure that the company would like, our cars HAVE to come off the production line by the 14th August at the latest, and that would be pushing it. So folks, if our cars have not gone into production in the next 10 to 12 days, forget a September delivery, except of course, for those lucky few whose cars are complete and in transit. For the rest of us, including low numbered sigs, i think the above is true.
timpoo
Member
I agree with you Dborn - I think we should set our sights on October, even for low numbered sigs.
Also don't forget that they still need to have a service centre in both Sydney and Melbourne, and there's only Matt in Melbourne at the moment....so yeah, we should probably all temper our expectations from our original plans.
Dborn
Confirmed
regarding service, see this page on the company website Sydney | Tesla Motors . you will see that "SYDNEY SERVICE
Tesla Service Sydney serves Tesla owners throughout Australia. Please contact us to schedule an appointment." This relates, fairly obviously, to roadster days. So, at least initially, it may not be the restriction to deliveries in Melbourne it otherwise seems to be. Only issue as i see it, is prep for the cars and a delivery specialist to hand over the cars. They will need a service centre and a gallery In Melbourne soon enough though, but it does not need to be a precondition to deliveries down there!! The service centre in Sydney is tiny and they are actively looking for an alternative. The problem seems to be a site that can provide enough electricity for their needs. The current unit can handle perhaps a single Model S and maybe a roadster, but that would be it. Simply physically would not fit.
Tesla Service Sydney serves Tesla owners throughout Australia. Please contact us to schedule an appointment." This relates, fairly obviously, to roadster days. So, at least initially, it may not be the restriction to deliveries in Melbourne it otherwise seems to be. Only issue as i see it, is prep for the cars and a delivery specialist to hand over the cars. They will need a service centre and a gallery In Melbourne soon enough though, but it does not need to be a precondition to deliveries down there!! The service centre in Sydney is tiny and they are actively looking for an alternative. The problem seems to be a site that can provide enough electricity for their needs. The current unit can handle perhaps a single Model S and maybe a roadster, but that would be it. Simply physically would not fit.
MangroveMike
Member
Good or bad, a couple of weeks ago Stone told me there would be a service centre open for deliveries. Either the service centers are well in advance or deliveries are a long way off. ..... Or both :-(
TesAus
Member
Not many people compare the Model S 60kwh version to other cars in Australia - so I've done a rough job:
What can you get for a Tesla Model S 60 in Australia — JET Charge
You may or may not be interested
Timpoo - like the comparison, you have gone to a fair bit of effort to bring it all together. I assume that the pricing is the "base spec" for each car before options etc are added? Quite often the advanced driver assist technologies are part of an optional safety pack or similar so the comparison may not be too far off.
Of course you realise that we now will expect you to do an 85 and p85 comparison?!
- - - Updated - - -
The indications I got at the test drive session and since are that things are coming together for our deliveries, and whilst not
locked in yet that September is looking achievable for sigs at least..
They'll need a bigger crew when all the production cars arrive but for the initial sigs they should be fine to make all the deliveries now.
Dborn
Confirmed
Also, in the initial phases they relocate staff temporarily to help out...that is, bring in folks from overseas.
timpoo
Member
Yeah pricing is base spec - basically carsales.com.au data -_- I know it's not that scientific but I might go deeper in the next round of comparisons.
I just wanted to create a table so people could see what was on offer in Australia. I was actually quite surprised at the strength of the competition in the "60" segment. The BMW 5 series, Mercedes CLA 45AMG, Audi S5 and Jaguar XF are all excellent cars. Of course, having driven the Tesla I would never go back there, but it shows that Tesla will need to pay more attention to their "base model" or they will lose potential customers to the more established players.
Not many people compare the Model S 60kwh version to other cars in Australia - so I've done a rough job:
What can you get for a Tesla Model S 60 in Australia — JET Charge
You may or may not be interested
Other factors to consider are cost of ownership. Service charges for those ICE cars would be expensive when compared to an EV. Energy costs for the Tesla would be nil if charging from home solar or charging for free at public charging points or superchargers.
timpoo
Member
Great point. However, I think sometimes it's hard for many consumers to take this into account properly. There are too many variables. If you keep the car for 5 years, then you'll get more savings than if you keep the car for 3 years. If your ICE runs perfectly without needing the need for too much extra work, then your savings will go down again with a Tesla.
I guess I was trying to provide a headline snapshot of Tesla's competition in the "60" segment.
doctorwho
Active Member
This will be a 'final car' for us. We usually keep our cars 10 years, I'm hoping that in 10 years a replacement battery will be affordable and give much greater range. We can only justify this car if it's a 15 year car.
That's my plan too, I have an almost five year old Prado which was the first car we'd ever bought new and to be our "final" car and while we don't use a second car much at the moment (~5000 km per year) we are definitely a two car family. If we get the Tesla we will flog the old Camry and retain the Prado as the second car and for off-roading trips.
Decision I'm currently having to make is to whether to go S or X since we have a couple young kids ...
Decision I'm currently having to make is to whether to go S or X since we have a couple young kids ...
Dborn
Confirmed
It's going to be a 10 year car for me too.
I purchased a 2012 Prius 18 months ago instead of a Leaf because I was worried about battery capacity issues in hot climates. Before that a Nissan Patrol diesel which cost me $4000 a year in fuel. I still have the Patrol which is 12 years old (and worth nothing) for the occasional 4WD trip.
Both the Prius and Patrol will be sold now.
I didn't consider a Model S because I didn't think it would be available in this country.
Depreciation of EV's is somewhat of an unknown at the moment and perhaps in the future, good second hand EV's will attract a premium price. ICE cars will eventually become unattractive to the general population.
I purchased a 2012 Prius 18 months ago instead of a Leaf because I was worried about battery capacity issues in hot climates. Before that a Nissan Patrol diesel which cost me $4000 a year in fuel. I still have the Patrol which is 12 years old (and worth nothing) for the occasional 4WD trip.
Both the Prius and Patrol will be sold now.
I didn't consider a Model S because I didn't think it would be available in this country.
Depreciation of EV's is somewhat of an unknown at the moment and perhaps in the future, good second hand EV's will attract a premium price. ICE cars will eventually become unattractive to the general population.
