jtpassat
Member
looks like the new inventory cars that just made it to the site have the prices listed AFTER the EV rebates
85 kWh Performance Model S P51978 | Tesla Motors
85 kWh Performance Model S P51978 | Tesla Motors
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Tesla Model S CPO Website - Now Live
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That is because this is actually an Inventory car so it qualifies for tax rebates. As an Inventory car you get the added benefit of being able to buy an Extended Warranty on that car whereas for some strange reason they refuse to sell an extended warranty for CPO cars. The price is good but too bad it is badly optioned with no sunroof, no leather, and no air or sound.
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jtpassat
Member
I know but Hank's site is suppose to recalculate and show the price of the car BEFORE the incentives.
Seems like there might have been a price change immediately after they listed that car because the price on Hank's site does not match the listed price with or without the incentives...
spectrablue
Member
Another example of posted price AFTER the EV rebates
Look at this inventory model:
http://www.teslamotors.com/models/preowned/P17773
38k miles on a "new" car!
HankLloydRight
No Roads
Strange... TM might have changed their data format so EV-CPO is picking up the wrong price. Will investigate later today.
Yikes you are sure you want to pay that kind of money for a P85+ when that is so close to the cost of a 2015 Inventory P85D?
BoerumHill
not great not terrible
Why is your personal mission to belittle any purchase that's not a rock bottom, sub-$60K bargain?
I pointed out to you a long time ago the rationale for pricing of the P85/P85+ CPO listings and you blithely ignored the basic math.
You're perfectly content to apply basic depreciation factors to a 85D/P85D and project where prices will be.
When I asked you to use that same basic math to 2014 cars that cost $112K-$126K new, you ignored my request and said "All I know is they should cost less."
Tesla Model S CPO Website - Now Live - Page 182
Tesla Model S CPO Website - Now Live - Page 182
We get that YOU aren't going to pay a premium for a P85+, but I'd appreciate it if you'd stop being judgemental toward anyone who thinks these 12-18 month old cars are not obsolete.
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Mod Note: Some posts edited and some moved to snippiness. It's fine to disagree, but let's try to keep direct personal attacks out of it.
BoerumHill
not great not terrible
Fair enough, thanks.
MsElectric - my apology for any offense taken. Not my intent to attack you or anyone; I just think the higher end listings are fairly priced using simple depreciation factors. That said, you make valid points that it's harder for TM to move those cars given the similar value offered by a new 85D with greater functionality.
Forward.
It is interesting that you removed my post in its entirety but left the post of the forum member who called me an animal intact by just only editing out that bit from his disparaging post. If you want to show any semblance of fairness, you may want to either restore my post that you censored or also remove the post by @BoerumHill in its entirety where he called me an animal.
I did not make any personal attacks at @BoerumHill when I replied to his post but my post got removed in its entirety despite the fact that I was respectful. On the other hand @BoerumHill called me an animal and you only edited that bit out and left the rest of his post intact. How is that fair?
When people talk about draconian censorship on TMC this is what they are talking about...
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HankLloydRight
No Roads
Fair enough, but I did include a smiley as a notice of just friendly ribbing, no snippiness intended.
mmd
Active Member
Yes, amazing moderation!
The depreciation based valuation works if prices are stable. If newer and better products are being sold at lower prices (for whatever reason), then from a buyer's point of view, one has to take the lowest of the choices available.
That's like asking someone to justify a P85+ over a P85(D)...you probably will never understand our rationale for having/making these kinds choices (I know, first world problems, lol)...it's like Hank mentioned when he commented on why someone is getting an M5 vs. a 5 series BMW...there's just that little bit of extra that some of us are willing to pay for, or why someone silly like me will go and drop 8k on some rims and then have to drop 2k every year on rubbers cause they only last around 8-10k miles per set....hmm, i didn't say i was smart did i?....:tongue:
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Drucifer
Active Member
The price is where an actual transaction / sale occurs. If there is a price listed and the product does not sell in the marketplace in a reasonable time, then that is not a price, but just wishful thinking on the part of the wannabe seller.
P85+ pricing has entered the zone of wishful thinking on the part of Tesla at this point, IMHO.
P85+ pricing has entered the zone of wishful thinking on the part of Tesla at this point, IMHO.
HankLloydRight
No Roads
Yup, the format changed slightly which caused the $7500 tax credit to be applied to Inventory cars (in my code, not theirs). It's now been fixed.
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