It's a fairer system, everyone knows everyone else is getting the same price. You always feel you didn't maybe haggle enough or someone else on some forum got a better deal than you did.
Musk has put himself front and centre as the face of Tesla so it's not surprising he affects people's opinions on the brand given his activity on X.
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Speed and handling for the price is pretty decent, if you need the Supercharger network then that's still a definite positive, at least in the UK.with SCs opening up to the public, what is really an incentive to buy a Tesla?
What it has to offer, really, compared to others?
a tiny bit more range, efficiency? please. most people charge at home all the time and do not care about those.
FSD? Yeah, right.
better sound insulation and comfort?
Better price? Well, no, not really.
With so much choice these days, what is the incentive to buy the tesla?
The overall package is still market competitive and there’s plenty of profit per vehicle to discount against. I’m glad there’s increasing choice and diversity in the market though, and long may it continue.with SCs opening up to the public, what is really an incentive to buy a Tesla?
What it has to offer, really, compared to others?
a tiny bit more range, efficiency? please. most people charge at home all the time and do not care about those.
FSD? Yeah, right.
better sound insulation and comfort?
Better price? Well, no, not really.
With so much choice these days, what is the incentive to buy the tesla?
I can understand trying to tied different sensors together is actually pretty hard so trying to solve it with just vision probably makes it a bit easier at this point. However longer term I think if they want to be far superior to humans they need sensors that can detect things in situations that we cannot. Lidar / Radar gives a car vision in situations where regular cameras might not see anything.
FSD is a pipe dream. This video is really excellent at discussing its fundamental limitations.
The video shows the driver taking over at the last minute and swerving off the road to avoid the train, took out the crossing signals I think.
They saved their own life.
A Tesla owner says his car’s ‘self-driving’ technology failed to detect a moving train ahead of a crash caught on camera
A video viewed millions of times on social media shows a Tesla almost crashing into a train. Documents from Tesla show the car was in Full Self-Driving mode at the time.
Here you go, you can rest easy
So current narratives (they just get repeated, often every 3 months because of Tesla delivery wave, otherwise whenever there's a factory upgrade or shipping problem). Can't people remember all the times (over many years) that variants of these have been debunked?
Between waves of expansion - new models expected end of 2024-start of 2025. France's Tesla Y Van would sell well in many countries. Musk is prepping for a price war. Who will be harmed? Non-Tesla for the most part. A wave of cheaper Chinese EVs will affect European manufacturers of both ICE and EVs. Crater resale values & mess up VW/BMW etc financing.
Growth will come shortly. In the meantime energy storage has huge demands, great profits and is being ramped by Tesla.
Red Sea has upset all kinds of supply chains. Longer journeys, fewer unladen ships. Huge numbers of BYDs etc clogging up European ports & HGV vehicle transporters.
VW Group usually has higher market share than Tesla in Europe. That reversed in 2024Q1 with Tesla beating the whole of VW Group (only the third time in 4 years).
By some reports. Berlin is now doing Right-hand Drive Model Ys, perhaps there is a production-line improvement planned.
Elon doesn't care about share prices very much. He can see the huge headwinds that will temporarily hit and has prepared Tesla for them. It's Tesla's competitors that will be most affected by these issues.
A bit of a non sequitur but if and when we resolve the technical issues how do we resolve the moral ones.
As you say, a human could do anything. As more cars have Full Self Driving enabled, edge cases & stupidity reduce. It often takes two or more stupid actors to have a serious incident. When only one is human, risk reduces.
Actually, this is a very good example frankly of what is wrong at Tesla. Musk indeed believes that his neural network will get smart enough to use vision alone (as in - humans rely on 2 eyes to create a 4D space, so can Tesla vision). This is his belief - not based on data. The direction of the entire company now relies on this vision (sorry for the pun), ignoring all the actual engineering and data. His successes were backed up by real engineering and his failures were not. This one isn’t.
