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Interesting.....

HW 2.0 Model S --> got 16.3 tonight (interestingly it doesn't have LDA or ELDA (nor do I see AEB, did they remove that for 2.0). It doesn't seem I gained much of anything on this car except the sentry button at the top from 2019.12.1 (prev version)

HW 2.5 Model 3 --> got 16.2 last night (with LDA/ELDA) from 2019.12.2

both have new visualizations for the car. So much for 16.3 being HW3 only?!

Kinda sad that the Hw 2.0 doesn't get LDA love. Seems like a good feature (worked well for me on the 3). I don't see why HW 2.0 cars can't have it (if they can do auto-lane changes and NoA)
 
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Thank you for checking.

LDA is an extension of the prior LDW (see above blog post). In the picture, they show the warning message and a blue line being crossed. Previously, LDW was vibrate steering wheel only - it did NOT beep. It's impossible to know from the blog post whether LDA now has beeping as well as vibrating. But I do know that LDW has been converted from a toggle to a slider, with three options, off, warn, and assist. Anyway, that's what I would like to know - does LDA beep when in warn mode? In general I would like a complete description of the behavior of both features, but no one seems to know.

It seems quite likely that ELDA beeps, at least, because people have been talking about audible alarms. Which is also pretty bad as it seems to trigger if you cross a solid white line, or possibly even a white line that is not solid. But that is a secondary question. The blog post shows a red line being crossed with a different warning message being displayed.
Hi Alan. During my drive this evening ELDA went off with no TACC or Auto steering AND no line painted on the right side of the road. I had Tesla mobile service today for a couple of minor issues, and he said Tesla is aware of the complaints and it should be addressed in an upcoming firmware update.
 
Interesting.....

HW 2.0 Model S --> got 16.3 tonight (interestingly it doesn't have LDA or ELDA (nor do I see AEB, did they remove that for 2.0). It doesn't seem I gained much of anything on this car except the sentry button at the top from 2019.12.1 (prev version)

HW 2.5 Model 3 --> got 16.2 last night (with LDA/ELDA) from 2019.12.2

both have new visualizations for the car. So much for 16.3 being HW3 only?!

Kinda sad that the Hw 2.0 doesn't get LDA love. Seems like a good feature (worked well for me on the 3). I don't see why HW 2.0 cars can't have it (if they can do auto-lane changes and NoA)

reviewing a bunch of threads it seems LDW and esp ELDA are only for the 3 right now (any S / X owners have it)? And maybe for good reason the majority of the posts sound negative. So far I've had 16.2 on the 3 for 2 days without any issues and I found the warnings to be appropriate when I intentionally tried to cross the white side line or the yellow center lane (but I must be in the minority it seems). It does sound like they need to work some bugs out
 
Hi Alan. During my drive this evening ELDA went off with no TACC or Auto steering AND no line painted on the right side of the road. I had Tesla mobile service today for a couple of minor issues, and he said Tesla is aware of the complaints and it should be addressed in an upcoming firmware update.

Thanks. I guess I will just wait and see. No real reason to update right now. We can do this all again in a couple weeks!
 
Piked up my 3 yesterday (May build so HW3) and had pleaded for them to update the software to 16.3 (or at least 16). Live in a building so don't have access to my WiFi in the parking deck. Delivered with 7.1 and Delivery Specialist said that have no way to "force" an update. So now I wait. I have Software Update selected in Notifications BUT......WILL this notify me (the same or as quickly) even if NOT connected to WiFi? That way I can use my iPhone as a hotspot or try and find a WiFi.

Also if it notifies me will it start to download as soon as I connect to a WiFi?

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My rear camera blacked out yesterday on 2019.16.3. I cannot fathom how this is still an ongoing bug.

No issues with ELDA for me so far luckily but with the rear camera issue still persisting it causes me to pause over how well safety features can be trusted to work reliably.
 
So far I've had 16.2 on the 3 for 2 days without any issues and I found the warnings to be appropriate when I intentionally tried to cross the white side line or the yellow center lane (but I must be in the minority it seems).
Probably not the minority. However an improper activation and reaction is:
1) not even necessarily involving lines at all, for ELDA, so you probably haven't seen that
2) is probably often going to look a lot like appropriate except for a larger context
3) somewhat subjective of whether it was appropriate or not
4) likely far more frequent on differing roads, conditions, traffic, and driving style, so will have a tendency to be clustered rather than spread homogeneously across the vehicles
5) very remarkable if say 1 in 10 drivers see one once/month, so doesn't have to be hitting anywhere near a "majority", or even really all that often, to be a big deal

On #5, it is looking like it is well above that mark. Especially given we are less than 2 weeks into its deployment.
 
Did you have a chance to test out 2019.16.3 much before you upgraded? I would be interested to hear whether you think the Emergency Lane Departure Assist has chanced in behavior at all.

Unfortunately, I only had a single drive with 2019.16.3 and was unable to get ELDA to engage despite my many attempts to drift out of lane. I did receive the steering wheel vibration (which I believe in the standard LDA) however no corrective action from ELDA. Perhaps I was not correctly simulating the situation in which ELDA engages? (yes I verified that ELDA was active)
 
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It went from 16,3 to 16.3.2 with the same “what’s new” message as before... however when I went to my car this morning the charge port wouldn’t unlock by the usual method so I had to open up the app, it took a while to connect saying “waking up”

It woke up and I was able to get the app to unlock the charge port.


However, when I went to get in the car the climate control and radio turned on but the screen was black with just a little shimmer...

I did a reset and brought it back up but something happened...

We also had a nasty thunderstorm late last night after the update so I’m not sure if the storm affected the car or if it was the update... seems to be working fine now tho.
 
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Perhaps I was not correctly simulating the situation in which ELDA engages? (yes I verified that ELDA was active)
ELDA probably needs to detect an impact threat (whether actual or misinterpreted). It doesn't actually need lane lines to trigger, will trigger under active steering, and probably also with the signal light activated (either right before or even at the point that ELDA is triggered).

What level do you have LDA set at? Active or Warning?
 
So sad. I will await confirmation here of a no audible warning (so vibrate only) for lane departure with no Autosteer/TACC involvement, consistent with prior behavior in version 12.1.2 and earlier, before updating. Beeping is simply unacceptable unless I am about to crash in a horrible fashion.

I just got home from driving on a multi-lane, 40 MPH zone (I don't have Autosteer, TACC, etc.), with 2019.16.2.
  • When driving properly in my lane (which is winding, so false positives could be possible), no interference.
  • When changing lanes with a blinker on (quick blink and long hold), no interference.
  • I then attempted twice, once on each side of the car, to drift (over 25 MPH) into the other lane w/o signaling (no cars next to me for a collision).
    • Each time as I got very close, maybe over the lines, the steering wheel steered me back into the lane gently. Just like many OEM ICE systems. The car did NOT make noise. The steering was appropriate and expected, not jarring or evasive.
Here is what my Controls screen looks like to answer your earlier question:

LDA slider
ELDA toggle button

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Piked up my 3 yesterday (May build so HW3) and had pleaded for them to update the software to 16.3 (or at least 16). Live in a building so don't have access to my WiFi in the parking deck. Delivered with 7.1 and Delivery Specialist said that have no way to "force" an update. So now I wait. I have Software Update selected in Notifications BUT......WILL this notify me (the same or as quickly) even if NOT connected to WiFi? That way I can use my iPhone as a hotspot or try and find a WiFi.

Also if it notifies me will it start to download as soon as I connect to a WiFi?
I don't have access to Wifi either where I park. You could try to tether your cell phone (hot spot) and the car can connect to it via Wifi, but I rarely get that work. Instead what I do is go to the local Tesla Service Center and ask them to "Push" the latest software update to my car. They can see what version you have, and which one is available for your specific car. Then about an hour later I get notified in the car, and app, that there is new software to install. They do not charge any $ to do this.

The notification on your phone is not to download the software from Tesla to the car. The notification is to install the already loaded, or "staged," software. The longest part of this process is downloading, which you have no control. You only control installation.
 
I'm on HW3 and just got a notice for software upgrade. I'm on 16.3 which I got two days ago which the SC DID push to my car to make available for me to install when I got home (@julianw). He did say he checked to make sure it was available for my car so it could be that you're car wasn't on the list since it's new?