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You don't have to tell them, they see a Model S and point the way...
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You don't have to tell them, they see a Model S and point the way...
... It would suck for travelers if they attempted to charge at a supercharger and had to wait for the local to finish supercharging when the local had a perfectly valid charging option at home. ....
At some point in the future even local yokels in Timbuktu will have a Tesla. Then the travel spots will be packed. We have to come up with a term for that. Yokeld?
If they are at Tesla facilities, they're almost certainly in a business zoned area, plus it would be trivial to make sure that only boni fide travelers use them, at least during business hours.While superchargers are relatively inexpensive to operate, I think they don't want them to become people's regular charging location. By placing them only in areas outside major metropolitan areas, they focus their use on travelers, and not locals. It would suck for travelers if they attempted to charge at a supercharger and had to wait for the local to finish supercharging when the local had a perfectly valid charging option at home. In the same vein, travelers are more likely to only charge for 20-30 minutes (enough to get to the next supercharger or their final destination) rather than sitting there the full hour to get to 100%.
The Hawthorne SC is an exception to the rule because it's at Space-X HQ, and is in a largely industrial area.
By placing them only in areas outside major metropolitan areas, they focus their use on travelers, and not locals.
It seems odd to me that there aren't Superchargers at all Tesla stores that have parking areas, not mall showrooms, but sales and service centers. Considering what it costs to put a center together, I wouldn't think the marginal cost of a Supercharger would be that big and it would significantly increase their availability.
In California it might be redundant, but for the rest of the country Superchargers are pretty thin on the ground and likely to remain that way for many years.
There is the problem that most of these locations would most likely need a larger power feed than they currently have. This service upgrade can be VERY expensive.
No. In fact even the ones with solar panels don't supply the full power from the panels but draw from the grid, the panels just supplement and feed power back to the grid when no one is charging.Actually I believe Superchargers are all Solar powered.
Actually I believe Superchargers are all Solar powered.
No. In fact even the ones with solar panels don't supply the full power from the panels but draw from the grid, the panels just supplement and feed power back to the grid when no one is charging.
But since they already are in commercial establishments, particularly the service centers, they likely already have 3 phase power, a parking area, and a building so they're well on the way. A green field Supercharger installation has to start from scratch, buy or lease land, put in a new service, and construct the facility.There is the problem that most of these locations would most likely need a larger power feed than they currently have. This service upgrade can be VERY expensive.
I bet a lot of their Supercharger location requirements is nearby large power feed to tap off of.
wasn't there mention that those superchargers would be connected to a battery?
then they would not need high-power connection to the grid!
But since they already are in commercial establishments, particularly the service centers, they likely already have 3 phase power, a parking area, and a building so they're well on the way. A green field Supercharger installation has to start from scratch, buy or lease land, put in a new service, and construct the facility.
If they put HPC, asside Superchargers, people can choose fast or fastest charge! ;-)
Would 4 hpc cost more than 4 superchargers?
I guess once the basics of a supercharger are installed, adding berths will cost +/- same as adding a hpc! no?
Pretty sure all high voltage lines use aluminum, not copper.The real problem is whether or not their copper is fat enough. A single supercharger will pull about as much power as 20-40 houses (wolfram alpha). 100kW is a TON of power to pull instantaneously. Most commercial places won't have thick enough copper.
In fact you aren't going to bring in that much power on 480 3phase anyway it requires too much copper, you are going to bring in much higher voltage and step down near the supercharge units.
Yep, aluminium wrapped steel lines.Pretty sure all high voltage lines use aluminum, not copper.
Yep, aluminium wrapped steel lines.