No, it's common sense that a 1M mile battery Tesla will have a higher resale than an otherwise equivalent Tesla without a 1M mile battery
That was not your claim though- your claim was " they retain more resale value. Significantly more"
If you're walking that back to "any" more then you have a lot better argument.
ANY more- sure.
Significantly more? That's random guessing at this point and common sense
does not really support that at all.
Here's the math we know....
Initial buyers on average resell a new car after about 6.5 years... which is going to be (again using national average) about 88,000 miles on the vehicle.
So that gets us to it's the opposite of common sense to think folks are going to pay "significantly more" for an 88,000 mile vehicle with a "million mile" battery versus a "500,000 mile battery" given that second owner is
also likely getting rid of it long before they hit either number.
So that initial buyer probably doesn't see much resale benefit- and certainly common sense doesn't support your claim he'll see "significantly" more.
. Arguing they might have the same resale value
Strawman....nobody said "same"
But they did dispute your claim of "significantly more"
All Tesla cars have higher resale value than any ICE vehicle in it's class. It's one thing that makes a Tesla such a compelling purchase
Right.
Which
disproves the idea battery life is a major resale concern even with the "NOT" million mile battery in the car.
Second buyers are
already paying class-leading amounts for a Tesla with the
current generation of battery, because they already know it's
already going to last longer than they're likely to own the car.
So lasting
even longer after they no longer own it isn't much of a value add.
Not only do I believe him, it's common sense that the higher performance versions of the same car will cost more. But Elon did not tell us that the million mile battery will only ever be available in the very expensive Plaid cars.
Nor did I make such a claim.
Strawman on your part again.
Go back and read the original post that spawned the whole discussion (Artful Dodger citing someone else claiming the MMB on BD would immediately change the
value proposition of the S versus the regular 3, because it'd suddenly have a 30 year life span versus the 3 that wouldn't be getting that battery for a while.)
I pointed out folks spending $140,000 on a car don't usually keep it for 10 years, let alone 30, so the MMB would make no difference at all to such a person...
YOU then replied you didn't understand why I was talking about 140k cars.
I explained it was because the orignal post was about the Plaid S. Which Elon told us would be far more expensive than the current S.
And now you appear back to being confused again about why the discussion was about the 140k cars?
And even then everyone else involved seemed to already agree it'd come to other cars
later
I don't know why you are assuming that without any facts to back it up
I don't know why you keep making up things I didn't actually say and then questioning why I said them.
I did however backup the size of the current RR production line and the fact it's large enough to supply cells for Plaid, but
not for mass production 3/Y vehicles.
I even discussed likely timeframes for when they DO show up in other models, listing several possibilities depending on GF berlin, GF Austin, and GF nevada each getting an RR line running for either Euro Y, Cybertruck, or regular S/X/3/Y in freemont.
You apparently missed all that in your rush to insist I was making an argument I didn't actually make?
. Even if the million mile battery is initially introduced in the Plaid models, and even that is not a given
It kinda is if you mean the roadrunner cells- because we know the size and (roughly) the production capabilities of Kato road.
But sure if they announce they've got a huge deal to buy CATLs million mile cells that's another story
Otherwise it'll be that race I mention between various GF sites to see who can get a much larger roadrunner setup up and going first.
, you can be sure it will trickle down to less expensive models.
So sure in fact, that I specifically mentioned it in the post you went on claim I said otherwise in