He says ‘Exciting~‘ so can’t see these as that?
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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The Accountant
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DragonWatch
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Nothing to see here, feel free to move on. Just my perspective from the new to us Dragons View.
My Toyota Tacoma, but wait I live in Olympia not Tacoma; okay, it required its 20K service that I finally got around to at 22K. Just the “facts mam,” said officer Friday.
Last week as I drove onto the lot, it was extremely obvious the newbi’s were in, well, short supply. This dealership has moved three times since I moved here back in August 1999. Each time new and expanded buildings and properties.
Since 1975, my wife and I have purchased at least eight new Toyota’s.
Because our current Tacoma had an issue with its aftermarket item, we were suggested to take it down south for their opinion and warranty. I‘ve gotten one too many lectures lately, so yes, I lost myseniorperks all over the manager. This a perfect storm blowing a hole the size of texas thru the MajorBS of dealership advantage over direct sales. But not my bottom line story.
Traditional auto dealerships love acres of new cars waiting for you to drive off the lot. But there are limited choices now, that are not missing keys, but computer chips. I did not see tons of sales people waiting like flytraps, I did not see cars lined up for no schedule lubes. There was a lineup of people wanting to take a bit out of the manager
I passed on the line, and requested he call me when he got time ~ I had a forty-five minute drive ahead of me.
The manager of course wanted to know how he could make things right by me ~ he sent me an email, at my request, stating that his dealership would front the troubleshooting in Oly, and provide transportation from Oly and return. What he can never correct with me is the sour taste I have acquired as a customer, long time customer, of Toyota. That is my bottom line ~ never buying another Toyota.
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Last week, pre-fourth I read about Rivian. Cool truck, but limited company scope and partially funded by Ford or was at some point (expert input welcome). I went through the app selecting the parts I would like to build my version. The price tag was really close to what I might expect of the cybertruck of my choice ~ just minus all the camping capabilities. I watched the Long Way series where they used electric motorcycles and the pit crew drove two prototype Rivian‘s. If they deliver to your home, that’s cool, but not sure how they’ll handle maintenance. In 2017, we opted to buy TSLA stock instead of maintenance package for our Model X, I think that paid off?
I also looked into the Ford 150. I had recently parked near one, still no distinguishing look, compared to Cybertruck or Rivian. But now, I have an idea of what it looks like. Bottom line, I went to a Ford dealership to see if I could plug in my choices of a e150. Sorry, not much I can offer. If you have a better link, it would be fun just look through it and dream.
The really fun part was a TV commercial touting their next generation family and commercial pickups by, you guessed it, Toyota. All fossil fuel line up. Not even a battery pack with wheels like Chevy. Even with stretching my imagination, it is hard to visualize a stretched Prius with a truck bed. Aha yes, maybe like the old El Camino ~ more car than truck; but still fossil fuel. FYI ~ I speed dial thru commercials or mute. Drives the poor GrandPups nuts
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Still, the only competitor is fossil fuel.
While I say, “I do not care what the cost” I’ll move forward into solar power, and electric vehicles; I must confess ~ I still ask for my military discount
Nothing to see here, feel free to move on. Just my perspective from the new to us Dragons View.
My Toyota Tacoma, but wait I live in Olympia not Tacoma; okay, it required its 20K service that I finally got around to at 22K. Just the “facts mam,” said officer Friday.
Last week as I drove onto the lot, it was extremely obvious the newbi’s were in, well, short supply. This dealership has moved three times since I moved here back in August 1999. Each time new and expanded buildings and properties.
Since 1975, my wife and I have purchased at least eight new Toyota’s.
Because our current Tacoma had an issue with its aftermarket item, we were suggested to take it down south for their opinion and warranty. I‘ve gotten one too many lectures lately, so yes, I lost myseniorperks all over the manager. This a perfect storm blowing a hole the size of texas thru the MajorBS of dealership advantage over direct sales. But not my bottom line story.
Traditional auto dealerships love acres of new cars waiting for you to drive off the lot. But there are limited choices now, that are not missing keys, but computer chips. I did not see tons of sales people waiting like flytraps, I did not see cars lined up for no schedule lubes. There was a lineup of people wanting to take a bit out of the manager
I passed on the line, and requested he call me when he got time ~ I had a forty-five minute drive ahead of me.The manager of course wanted to know how he could make things right by me ~ he sent me an email, at my request, stating that his dealership would front the troubleshooting in Oly, and provide transportation from Oly and return. What he can never correct with me is the sour taste I have acquired as a customer, long time customer, of Toyota. That is my bottom line ~ never buying another Toyota.
* * *
Last week, pre-fourth I read about Rivian. Cool truck, but limited company scope and partially funded by Ford or was at some point (expert input welcome). I went through the app selecting the parts I would like to build my version. The price tag was really close to what I might expect of the cybertruck of my choice ~ just minus all the camping capabilities. I watched the Long Way series where they used electric motorcycles and the pit crew drove two prototype Rivian‘s. If they deliver to your home, that’s cool, but not sure how they’ll handle maintenance. In 2017, we opted to buy TSLA stock instead of maintenance package for our Model X, I think that paid off?
I also looked into the Ford 150. I had recently parked near one, still no distinguishing look, compared to Cybertruck or Rivian. But now, I have an idea of what it looks like. Bottom line, I went to a Ford dealership to see if I could plug in my choices of a e150. Sorry, not much I can offer. If you have a better link, it would be fun just look through it and dream.
The really fun part was a TV commercial touting their next generation family and commercial pickups by, you guessed it, Toyota. All fossil fuel line up. Not even a battery pack with wheels like Chevy. Even with stretching my imagination, it is hard to visualize a stretched Prius with a truck bed. Aha yes, maybe like the old El Camino ~ more car than truck; but still fossil fuel. FYI ~ I speed dial thru commercials or mute. Drives the poor GrandPups nuts
* * *
Still, the only competitor is fossil fuel.
While I say, “I do not care what the cost” I’ll move forward into solar power, and electric vehicles; I must confess ~ I still ask for my military discount
Oh great.....another RED day then regardless of what numbers are released
UkNorthampton
TSLA - 12+ startups in 1
Long delays might be partly due to Fremont Panasonic vs Shanghai LG - 2021 Shipping Movements
However, the post/reply suggests that the Shanghai LG ones are also going fast & UK gets the China LG anyway. Probably a series of reasons. Shortage of demand isn't one of them in my view. I look forward to next China numbers (if reliable)
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Knightshade
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MUCH appreciated for the clarification with real world example- so does seem like announcing a split conditional on approval is ok regulatorily speaking
What’s your view on the Twitter handle’s clain on Q2 China sales, how far off do you think it is?
If that was true, then the Model S would not have won the comparo against the Porsche Taycan.....................Twice.
The Accountant
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I took their estimate as accurate. The 27,900 number in yellow below is what they implied when they stated 11% decrease in local China sales vs Q1.
The CPCA reports the number tomorrow. We will see if Tesla_China_Analyst is accurate or not. Look for a 28k number.
lafrisbee
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Lithium roadblock?
I like the host the most, and the guest either lies so well that I can not see the lie. Or Lithium is not going to be an impediment...eventually.
Lithium roadblock?
I like the host the most, and the guest either lies so well that I can not see the lie. Or Lithium is not going to be an impediment...eventually.
I just realized Aaron Greenspan is from Cleveland.
I am from Cleveland.
This is the clearest division of good vs. evil in the history of mankind.
gabeincal
Active Member
I don't agree with this. Tesla has enough cash to expand already. And the supercharger network is an excellent marketing tool.
I also fear that other car brands will run into charging problems since no cars charging systems are built the same. So it might backfire. Since it would be a never ending pain in the butt for Tesla to adjust their systems to all the different car models.
It will be up to the other car manufacturers to make their cars compliant with Tesla (e.g. an adapter).
They just need to say "this is our system, you can license it for X or have your customers use our phone app and pay more per charge" and leave it at that. It will probably just be CCS but you still need software for the handshake.
I spent three winters there one year. Good food town.
It looks like they have cleared a spot and started to build forms for something. Maybe another GigaPress?
Or maybe just a structure to hold all of the excess castings they produce? It will be interesting to watch this space.
The Accountant
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I would love to see all those Model S's gone the next time you do a flyover.
StealthP3D
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Nothing prevents Tesla from announcing their intention to split the shares, pending shareholder approval.
Shareholder approval is just a formality as there is no way shareholders would vote against issuing more shares if the purpose of those shares were simply to split existing shares. It's a shoe-in.
That is basically how the 3rd party charger networks in Europe work right now. Chargers are made with standard CCS2 plugs. And car manufacturers make their cars CCS2 compliant.
My Tesla is another CCS2 compliant car. And I often get into trouble when trying 3rd party chargers.
Teslabjørn did too in one of his recent videos where he drove a VW ID.4 - a brand new car which should have all the latest updates necessary to be CCS2 compliant.
When I can't charge my car I do not really know who is at fault - the charger or my car. But I always blame the charger. And believe Tesla would be blamed if a VW ID.4 failed to use a supercharger.
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