Correct. They used to do home-deliveries to satisfy this requirement.
Not sure why the service isn’t offered anymore since customers were paying for the transport.
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Tesla will not Sell you vehicle without proof of residence in state where car is located.
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Not sure why the service isn’t offered anymore since customers were paying for the transport.
That's what they did for me back in '16. I bought a CPO'ed S that was shipped from Dallas to Dedham for final prep, then brought up to me (~150mi) by a Dedham employee on a single car flatbed trailer hauled behind a white F250 with a Tesla logo and TESLA down each side.
I think Tesla shares some of the blame here and that some of these rules may be Tesla policy, not just state restrictions, although sales tax and temp plate laws come into play as well.
I don't know why a buyer from PA can't pick up in NJ. NJ certainly is fine with out of state buyers. I can't see how a PA law could prevent it (restraint of interstate trade?). It may just be Tesla policy - maybe the NJ sites are just too busy handling deliveries to buyers in NJ, DE, NH, VT, ME (the states listed in your doc) to add buyers from additional states.
I can confirm the NH rules - when ordering my new Y, I was allowed to pick up in NJ, PA, or pay for home delivery in NH.
I know of plenty of examples of people from NH, CT, and RI buying non-Tesla cars from MA dealers. The dealer just delivers the car to a location in the buyer's state to avoid MA sales tax. No out of state buyer picks up a car at a MA dealer, since MA requires sales tax to be paid on all car purchases delivered in MA, regardless of ultimate state of registration. Also MA has no temporary plate.
I have purchased 2 cars from VT dealers as a NH resident. No VT tax was due. In one case they gave me a VT temp to drive home, in another I took the paperwork, registered it, and came back with permanent plates.
I'm running into same issue - have personal residency in one state and business in another state and was going to title / register in one of those states. They won't let me proceed unless state matches on both personal and business or if I just choose to title under my personal or business. Has anyone run into that issue? We're trying to title where our vehicle will be which is where our personal address is, but still want to add business as co-owner due to the credits and deductions allowed for businesses.
ucmndd
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This seems to be a really hit or miss kind of thing. I'm not sure how much is up to state laws and how much is up to Tesla internal policy, and I've seen plenty of speculating, but little in the way of facts one way or the other.
I can tell you, however, that I ordered my MY in my home state of New York back around February when wait times were long (I was looking at a June delivery) and whether or not it would continue to qualify for the tax credit was very much up in the air on a day to day basis. I found my exact build on waitingfortesla.com. It had just rolled off the plant in Austin and was on a truck headed to their Knoxville store.
I called the store and asked if I could buy that one, and they did some research and called me back saying yes, but I would have to come get it. So I got a cheap one way flight and drove it back. I did not pay any sales tax at the time of purchase. It came with a 60 day temporary Tennessee tag, and when I got it home I took it to the DMV to get it registered, get the real license plate, and pay the sales tax.
I can tell you, however, that I ordered my MY in my home state of New York back around February when wait times were long (I was looking at a June delivery) and whether or not it would continue to qualify for the tax credit was very much up in the air on a day to day basis. I found my exact build on waitingfortesla.com. It had just rolled off the plant in Austin and was on a truck headed to their Knoxville store.
I called the store and asked if I could buy that one, and they did some research and called me back saying yes, but I would have to come get it. So I got a cheap one way flight and drove it back. I did not pay any sales tax at the time of purchase. It came with a 60 day temporary Tennessee tag, and when I got it home I took it to the DMV to get it registered, get the real license plate, and pay the sales tax.
We actually moved to Oregon but our LLC is in CA, and the car is being picked up and will stay in OR. Just wanted to title it under business too because it’ll be split use and there are benefits to titling under business.
Just verified that Tesla no longer allows ’cross-border’ transactions. The rep at Roswell GA said that Tesla was having too many registration issues and recently stopped allowing this. I’m in FL and have bought several ICE cars out of Atlanta so I know it isn’t a state taxation issue. Too bad, config I want isn’t available in FL but there are two sitting in Atlanta area. I need car now so I guess I’ll have to rent from Hertz again.
For FL residents, where there are plenty of Tesla stores, maybe. For NH, ME, VT, that is incorrect. Our only option (ignoring home delivery) is a "cross-border" transaction.
That's good to know. I'm guessing Tesla stores don't have the employees to do this for customers.
Regardless, what is the real deal? Why the problems and you'd think there would be a clear statement to indicate how to do this effectively and without issue. It seems we have so many different stories and experiences and no real guidelines. Are people in NH just paying the tax or are they getting someone to over the border for them? Did they move into the state with the Tesla already purchased?
dhanson865
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I've seen used Teslas with FSD enabled priced more than ten thousand below the new price.
Year and Mileage lowered the value of the vehicle to begin with but I've literally seen FSD be only $1,000 more than EAP on a used Tesla. It doesn't always happen that way but when it does it's worth shipping across country or going to get it. At least to me, I value FSD at more than the difference you often see price differences from Tesla on used cars.
Paying what tax? Mass sales tax? No, because Tesla will not sell a NH resident a car from a MA location, period. NH buyers have two options for taking delivery - deliver to home/office (probably not an option during the quarter/year end rush), or pick up in NJ/PA (and soon VT), states which don't charge sales tax to out of state buyers.
My Model S was delivered to my home by a Tesla employee (granted, this was in '16). In '23, I picked up the Y in NJ (drove down in the S to trade it).
From other forums and such, Im getting the response that other companies will sell vehicles but they drive vehicle to DMV to meet you to complete the transaction.
Why is Tesla different? Surely no one wants to pay sales tax that MA forces on dealerships. Does Tesla not want these sorts of accomodations to happen for thei customers?
Why is Tesla different? Surely no one wants to pay sales tax that MA forces on dealerships. Does Tesla not want these sorts of accomodations to happen for thei customers?
stopcrazypp
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The dealers you talk about would not be able to make that out of state sale if they didn't accommodate it, so they have an incentive to do so.
Tesla on the other hand gains nothing from dealing with out of state buyers (other than from nearby states where they are banned from direct sales), given it's all manufacturer owned anyways. In fact, it's the opposite, it takes up sales rep time from helping local buyers (which is the propose of the stores), the paperwork is more complex, there is high likelihood of getting it wrong and the liability that comes from that.
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