-
Want to remove ads? Register an account and login to see fewer ads, and become a Supporting Member to remove almost all ads.
TSLA Investor Discussions
- Thread starter Fr23shjive
- Start date
-
- Tags
- investment market TSLA
- Status
K Hall
Member
$39.32 If it cracks $40.00 this week It will run on a squeeze.
There is a large buy offer at $38.50 of 20K and 32K shares offered at $40.00. Some big players taking positions.
There is a large buy offer at $38.50 of 20K and 32K shares offered at $40.00. Some big players taking positions.
Last edited:
The open interest seems to confirm my suspicion that the shorts are mostly hedged positions. People shorting the stock, and going long $40 + calls. They could see 50-100% downside via stock and 500% + return with options. It's possible these hedges were done months ago when price was $27-30. Would explain the decline in short interest. Anyone that bought the 2014 Jan $30 made a killing and likely covered their shorts. The interest in the $55 Jan really helps this theory. I wonder what this means for a short squeeze? If this is right, it could mean the short squeeze won't happen. However, it does mean a steady continuous run to $55? could be in the picture.
Think about it like this. Tesla was very heavily shorted from about $20. If you bought the Jan 2013 $30 call, you would have made (1000% +). (sadly I didn't)
Remember, at that time bankruptcy was a possibility. Therefore, a person with a very bullish outlook that also wanted to use risk management strategies would also short the stock. Some of these folks may be waiting to realize gains on their calls. When they do, they will likely cover their shorts.
This is not investing advice, just a theory.
Think about it like this. Tesla was very heavily shorted from about $20. If you bought the Jan 2013 $30 call, you would have made (1000% +). (sadly I didn't)
Remember, at that time bankruptcy was a possibility. Therefore, a person with a very bullish outlook that also wanted to use risk management strategies would also short the stock. Some of these folks may be waiting to realize gains on their calls. When they do, they will likely cover their shorts.
This is not investing advice, just a theory.
Last edited:
Mycroft
Life happens
The article in Fortune, (How far can you go in a Tesla?), had an interesting blurb:
Analysts would probably miss that altogether. They would see the entry for marketing that matches marketing costs for comparably capitalized companies and check it off as appropriate.
Analysts would probably miss that altogether. They would see the entry for marketing that matches marketing costs for comparably capitalized companies and check it off as appropriate.
I was glad to see comment below in Tesla's blog today penned by George B. To me it indicates attention going towards ability to deliver more cars.
"Our delivery process is also undergoing a number of improvements. We are making immediate changes to the logistics surrounding future deliveries and will provide clear communication between you and your Delivery Specialist throughout the process."
In 5 minute video below, George basically says, 1) through software/adaptors the car will be able to work with other fast charge systems (names three large standards in North America, Europe, and Japan, 2) at very end his tone is pretty enthusiastic that "we just build more cars" if demand is beyond what they've expected.
Tesla Sales VP George Blankenship talks living with an electric car. NewCarNews.TV Bob Giles - YouTube
"Our delivery process is also undergoing a number of improvements. We are making immediate changes to the logistics surrounding future deliveries and will provide clear communication between you and your Delivery Specialist throughout the process."
In 5 minute video below, George basically says, 1) through software/adaptors the car will be able to work with other fast charge systems (names three large standards in North America, Europe, and Japan, 2) at very end his tone is pretty enthusiastic that "we just build more cars" if demand is beyond what they've expected.
Tesla Sales VP George Blankenship talks living with an electric car. NewCarNews.TV Bob Giles - YouTube
carrerascott
FUEL FTR
This seems right as suddenly yesterday I got an IDS and though I don't have a VIN yet she collected info from me (drivers license, proof of insurance etc) and told me who would be delivering my car to me (and did confirm it would be flatbedded by Tesla and not a 3rd party truck). She has been very responsive as well, whereas my previous attempts to email people at Tesla took a few days to a week to be answered
carrerascott
FUEL FTR
gg_got_a_tesla
Model S: VIN 65513, Model 3: VIN 1913
What's impressive is that TSLA is bucking the downward momentum of the overall market itself. That's surely a sign that there could be a real breakout on Monday with the earnings call. Hang on tight!
Its really exciting. I have been waiting years for this moment 
This earnings call will be pivotal even with short squeeze aside.
- - - Updated - - -
Quick question. What do you all think the average selling price for Model S will be in 2013. I am using $80,000 in my financial model. Reasonable you think?
This earnings call will be pivotal even with short squeeze aside.- - - Updated - - -
Quick question. What do you all think the average selling price for Model S will be in 2013. I am using $80,000 in my financial model. Reasonable you think?
IF you're trying to compute gross revenue for the next fiscal Qtr. report, don't forget to add the $7500 Tax Credit to the purchase price. That revenue is counted on TM's books. Personally I think 85-90K might be a better guess. Not many buying the 40kw battery + 5% price increase + some standard equipment in 2012 is now a buy up option. So... $80K is low... IMO.
Any chance anyone is at this today or was at this yesterday? Clean-Tech Investor Summit | Green Technology Innovation | 2013
Seems JB Straubel is currently giving a speech.
Seems JB Straubel is currently giving a speech.
smorgasbord
Active Member
Or, it could be that expectations are getting unrealistic and that despite a good quarter, the stock will drop.
gg_got_a_tesla
Model S: VIN 65513, Model 3: VIN 1913
Citizen-T
Active Member
carrerascott
FUEL FTR
Normally I would agree - but I think this particular report will be an exception due to the plethora doubt ending events rolled into one:
Profitable production rates now achieved
Reservation/Sales secure most of the remaining of this years profitable production rate (if not set it up for upside surprise)
Positive cashflow on a quarterly basis going forward
Plenty of unused cash on the balance sheet (we don't know this until the report)
Quarterly loss will be now going in the positive direction (still a loss, but headed out of the red)
If all these and some good forward projections occur, any sell off will be quickly snapped up; but I think it will power over $40 instead. Then slowly pull back from there mirroring upcoming market correction. That would be the time to add position IMO
that's my guess!
- Status
Similar threads
- Locked
