TSLA Market Action: 2018 Investor Roundtable

[anthonyj]

I wrote calls as a swing this morning. Still can’t close them out. **** Robinhood! I hope there is a class action lawsuit

 

[Quesder]

hi Guys, good news,
I just sold 28 shares at $370 , so I bet TSLA will stand well above 370 by end of today. Enjoy.

 

[Nocturnal]

Artist's depiction of TSLA SP action.

 

[AWDtsla]

Is this guy legit/credible?
Robert Llewellyn on Twitter

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Tends to believe anything he is told, like solar roads, or using "waste" energy from humans for electricity, i.e. stuff on the level of perpetual energy machines. We'll just have to wait to see what it is.

 

[Unpilot]

She's looking bullish somewhat

I know it's hard to restrain...but did ya have too??

 

[Cherry Wine]

I wrote calls as a swing this morning. Still can’t close them out. **** Robinhood! I hope there is a class action lawsuit

That's terrible. I use Robinhood as well (didn't intend for my position to grow to be as big as it has now become), and if I could transfer my shares elsewhere at the same cost basis I would. As it is, I feel somewhat locked in now. I will look into whether or not I can move my shares to another broker.

The free trades are pretty nice, but I feel like I'm being penny wise and pound foolish. Something like today's SNAFU could have cost me hundreds or thousands if the timing were worse. The only other consolation is maybe they're working out kinks in their new in-house clearing system.

At any rate, rambling...was up half the night with a sick toddler.

 

[BioSehnsucht]

Did anyone else know that Tripp had fled to Hungary?

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I wonder... any lawyers here... could a defendant moving to another country after a lawsuit was filed appear to be an attempt to evade justice, and cause problems for them in court?

Odd choice. Maybe they grant asylum, but they do have extradition treaty with the US. If he was running he should have run to someplace with no extradition... no asylum needed. I guess it's possible he just happens to have family there...

 

[CorneliusXX]

Can you clarify? Were you referring to the Manufacturer? Underwriters of the ABS offering appear to be Citi and Deutsche Bank?

Citi and Deutsche are the arrangers (I'm using European definitions because it has been a while since I have worked on a US securitisation). They market the bonds to investors.

The underwriter is the entity that decides if the borrower can have a lease. Teslas finance arm will decide this. Because they decide who qualifies for a lease/loan their "quality" is directly linked to the expected performance of the loans.

The ratings agencies will assess Tesla's policy around lending (e.g. what fico scores they need a borrower to have before they lend, whether there is a required deposit, how much money the borrower needs to earn, etc.) And decided if Tesla finance have a strict or loose policy, if it is loose they will apply a penalty (They model higher losses) to the expected performance of the loans being securitise. This affects bond sizes and pricing.

 

[cheshire cat]

You ain't going to be part of EU now, are you?

Hope not

 

[winfield100]

to delivery on the East coast.

nice garage with 36 panels. how were you able to get them so close to the edges, in Florida? is that ~11.3kW?

 

[dmckinstry]

Doubt he could afford a decent coal these days. Maybe a sock full of lignite

We should give him the coal with the requirement that he burn it with a blocked chimney.

 

[XHabjab]

Criminal liability doesn't necessarily stop with Mr. Tripp though: if he was aided and abetted by members of the media, for example by a certain Linette Lopez at "Business Insider" who appears to have used Tripp as a primary source frequently, then the liability - and Tesla's ability to collect damages - might extend to much more wealthy entities as well.

If such evidence emerges Tesla could also amend their complaint with RICO claims and ask for triple damages - i.e. 500 million dollars (!). It would also give Tesla the right to discovery from Ms. Lopez and Business Insider in general, request identifying transaction details of short sellers, and generally pierce the corporate veil of underlying monetary interests that conspired against Tesla in a potentially criminal fashion.

So if Business Insider, or short sellers, or Tesla competitors did something shady and criminal, and it can be proven by Tesla, or Tripp flips on Lopez and others and delivers evidence of a criminal conspiracy, this could be the "Terry Gene Bollea (a.k.a. Hulk Hogan) vs. Gawker Media" moment of Tesla FUD spreading media outlets - and/or of short sellers and other entities criminally connected to Mr. Tripp.

Beyond being able to collect damages, Tesla would also set a precedent of aggressively going after those who are trying to harm them.

Agree 100%. Elon is a very good chess player, and I don't think Tripp is his target. Through discovery, looking at where the money flows and "cutting a deal", I think we'll see subsequent charges against BI, New York Times, Montana Skeptic, Jim Chanos, Einhorn, Spiegel, et al. Mr. Tripp is small potatoes. As the list of players increases, it is very reasonable that RICO will be invoked. What they have been doing is very much Racketeering. Their efforts and methods are synchronized and far beyond free speech, well within the realm of stock manipulation. I wouldn't be surprised to see some SEC rule changes for stock derivatives.

I'm with the Honey Badger.

 

[sparcs]

Oh Oppenheimer, you could not gives 420, could you?

Oppenheimer raises Tesla (TSLA) price target to $418 amid Q4's positive Model 3 outlook

with so many recent upgrades, you would think shares easily sitting in the 370s.

 

[SpaceCash]

Agree 100%. Elon is a very good chess player, and I don't think Tripp is his target. Through discovery, looking at where the money flows and "cutting a deal", I think we'll see subsequent charges against BI, New York Times, Montana Skeptic, Jim Chanos, et al. Mr. Tripp is small potatoes. As the list of players increases, it is very reasonable that RICO will be invoked. What they have been doing is very much Racketeering. Their efforts and methods are synchronized and far beyond free speech, well within the realm of stock manipulation. I wouldn't be surprised to see some SEC rule changes for stock derivatives.

I'm with the Honey Badger.

favorite post ever

 

[mrwuffles]

Oh Oppenheimer, you could not gives 420, could you?

Oppenheimer raises Tesla (TSLA) price target to $418 amid Q4's positive Model 3 outlook

Wasn't $418 the SP that Elon rounded up from?

 

[TheTalkingMule]

I'm going with 369.16 as my close guess today. Technically this post is on topic.

 

[anthonyj]

I’ve seen this type of price action last month. Stock exploded after.

 

[RobStark]

Is this guy legit/credible?
Robert Llewellyn on Twitter

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No manufacturer has access to enough battery cells to make a game changing BEV that doesn't have a 2+ year waiting list.

 

[Chop110]

with so many recent upgrades, you would think shares easily sitting in the 370s.

I know! Actually, I have feeling things are winding up for a massive jump. All we need is a catalyst. I am hoping I can clear more funds for more shares before this happens.

 

[loco]

I like recent price action. Gaining 0,5% a day gets us to 2000 in a year ;-)