Layoffs, restructuring, new business model, new features, whatever happens $54.20 per share is a a monumental ball and chain that Twitter will be dragging until the end, even if they somehow achieve moderate success in every other way, no two ways about it.
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Twitter and the Chief Twit
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i have been working in the company which was acquired by massive conglomerate and then had ~50% of workforce slashed "because lean modafaka". it resulted in horrible environment to work in, business decreased in TIMES if couple years. then another round of redundancies which cut another 1/3 of the staff. lead to even less business. I took voluntary on the third cut...
In the basic sense that the lights are on. But it's been widely reported that content moderation is a complete bin fire with a huge uptick in all kinds of hate speech and stuff that's against the ToS.
The problem is you can run something like that with a skeleton staff just fine.. until something goes wrong. You also can't do *new* stuff without the staff working to do it. Saving salaries isn't going to save the company - Elon has loaded it with so much debt it would have to expand its advertising massively just to stay still.
EVer Hopeful
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That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard of
Seriously
Even more stupid than Agile - and THAT set a very high bar
Edit: wait - you were joking right? Just seeing if anyone would bite ... and I did
Tell me you were joking
Zilla91
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One thing I’ve noticed these last 2 days that I’ve never seen before on Twitter is porn in the trending search results
EVer Hopeful
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I definitely skimmed over that - can't say I've ever seen pair programming involve two keyboards and mice connected. It's usually one person driving at a time and the other monitoring/talking through the process. Been used rather sparingly in my experience and I'm not a huge fan of it as it has a massive impact on most people's performance - not sure the "benefits" are that much greater than the normal pull with code review but that depends on process.That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard of
Seriously
Even more stupid than Agile - and THAT set a very high bar
Edit: wait - you were joking right? Just seeing if anyone would bite ... and I did
Tell me you were joking
There are some good bits of agile for sure but there's also a cargo cult-like approach some take with it and many see it as a way to track work more than anything. Still 20+ years of experience and most places don't really practice what they preach anyway.
I'm not sure why some people seem attached to the idea that everyone being unloaded are devs anyway. There'll be a large contingent of recruitment, payroll, compliance, HR, ads management, general admin, etc. that are gone. Probably a large group of the dev team are on H1B visas so they are kind of stuck. Since Twittter is largely in-house AFAIK it may take some time for the cracks to show but also since it's in-house when bad stuff happens they'll be in trouble. Bigger concern short-term would be the large number of advertisers that have abandoned the platform and probably compliance issues they are about to have.
Zilla91
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Pair programming is a huge waste of time and excuse for someone crap to get away with making someone else do their job.
You’d get much better knowledge sharing by doing proper code reviews instead of those being box ticking exercises because you need something merged in quickly to meet some artificial end of sprint deadline.
You’d get much better knowledge sharing by doing proper code reviews instead of those being box ticking exercises because you need something merged in quickly to meet some artificial end of sprint deadline.
EVer Hopeful
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I can see an Agile approach for say "we need to add this new feature to our existing code", but that's about it really. Whoever added the "Failing early is good" part is a genius tbh. How about "failing is bad, so let's not fail" instead?
Likewise the nonsense about "if it's not done by the end of the sprint, we'll just add it to a later sprint" wtf??? how about "Let's just get this bit done then we can move on" instead?
Where I work they converted to Agile, spent who knows how much in training people, reorganised the cubicles into hellscapes called "Collaborative workspaces" where nobody has any desk space and everyone wears headphones so they can keep the distractions to a minimum, and all the whiteboards-on-wheels got repurposed as doors to keep strangers from wandering through the space. AFAIK, nobody has ever done an RoI survey on the change, yet we keep doing it.
It brings out the worst in my company as they already suffer from being reactive and never really planning ahead. Agile just emphasises that. I'm waiting for the rest of the busines to be stupid enough to start using it - it's freight so we could have a sprint to send out shipments, then once we realise it went east instead of west, it would be a good thing because we "failed early"
Someone somewhere is making a lot of money selling this snake-oil and all you have to do is wait say another ten or fifteen years and they'll start selling waterfall or some other type of development process. Same with the current fashion of "get rid of the mainframe" that I hear so often. Wait ten or fifteen years and it'll be "we have to get a mainframe ... no wait, buy two of them!"
It's all just marketing
sorry - I've calmed down now
Likewise the nonsense about "if it's not done by the end of the sprint, we'll just add it to a later sprint" wtf??? how about "Let's just get this bit done then we can move on" instead?
Where I work they converted to Agile, spent who knows how much in training people, reorganised the cubicles into hellscapes called "Collaborative workspaces" where nobody has any desk space and everyone wears headphones so they can keep the distractions to a minimum, and all the whiteboards-on-wheels got repurposed as doors to keep strangers from wandering through the space. AFAIK, nobody has ever done an RoI survey on the change, yet we keep doing it.
It brings out the worst in my company as they already suffer from being reactive and never really planning ahead. Agile just emphasises that. I'm waiting for the rest of the busines to be stupid enough to start using it - it's freight so we could have a sprint to send out shipments, then once we realise it went east instead of west, it would be a good thing because we "failed early"
Someone somewhere is making a lot of money selling this snake-oil and all you have to do is wait say another ten or fifteen years and they'll start selling waterfall or some other type of development process. Same with the current fashion of "get rid of the mainframe" that I hear so often. Wait ten or fifteen years and it'll be "we have to get a mainframe ... no wait, buy two of them!"
It's all just marketing
sorry - I've calmed down now
Code is probably the least of the activities going on, as will be support keeping the lights on, that is if you don't class data science, search algorithms, content moderation, analytics for marketing, advert placement, sales, etc etc as code.
I have a mate who works in this space, he's worked at eBay and Facebook and is now at Google. He's been working on refining an advertising formula for one niche area on google as any tiny % improvement can translate to pretty big financial numbers. Would you miss him if he wasn't there? Not today, not this week, probably not this month, maybe this quarter, almost certainly over the year, but some of these jobs take time. But small continual improvements all add up. I don't think his paypal days will have given him any experience in this area, as Twitter isn't really about the ability the technology to send a tweet, its about the fact people do send tweets. and how to make money ouit of them.
I have a mate who works in this space, he's worked at eBay and Facebook and is now at Google. He's been working on refining an advertising formula for one niche area on google as any tiny % improvement can translate to pretty big financial numbers. Would you miss him if he wasn't there? Not today, not this week, probably not this month, maybe this quarter, almost certainly over the year, but some of these jobs take time. But small continual improvements all add up. I don't think his paypal days will have given him any experience in this area, as Twitter isn't really about the ability the technology to send a tweet, its about the fact people do send tweets. and how to make money ouit of them.
Zilla91
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pdk42
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i mean, it's perfectly decent way to drive twitter down and sell it to... i do not know, yahoo is byuing all sh!te in last 20 years... maybe they will buy the remainings of twitter?
He did not invest his own money into this - he had some sheikhs and similar to chip in for the 44 bn.
UkNorthampton
TSLA - 12+ startups in 1
The point being that Trump said he'd never go back to Twitter & Trump was all in on Truth Social.
Trump owns Truth Social. Switching to Twitter loses Trump money. Elon has nicely skewered him.
Elon's point was to prevent 2 echo chambers - Twitter & Truth Social & to have a single place (Twitter 2.0). An echo chamber means more division & automatic "hate of the other" when USA votes are split around 50-50 between the 2 parties. Most people don't like the extremes, but the extremes control the selection of candidates in many countries (UK to a large degree).
There might be 20-30% in each extreme, 40-60% somewhere in the middle (my guess/recollection of statements made elsewhere). Most people want a country to be well run financially, relatively strong, low crime & to be fair (with different meanings). If moderates could get a hold via a single platform, the extremists MIGHT be crowded out
UkNorthampton
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