UK 2022 Orders to Delivery inc the shipping thread for posts with no shipping news

[Frizzy]

Things seem quiet around here. Are there any new comers who have joined the forum recently?

 

[Virtual Greg]

Obviously I don't fully understand as I'm no electrician, but are you saying that the mobile connector that comes with a Tesla shouldn't be used because of possible shock risk?

Why would they provide you with one of this is the case?

Or are you saying the extension is the problem?
If so, what's the difference?

(Honestly, I'm not arguing here - I'm simply trying to understand)

I was and electrician before I retired. I think the “granny” charges are fine for occasional use. I use one when on holiday etc. I don’t think they are good as an everyday charger. It’s all about managing unnecessary risks. I’m fairly confident they will go the route of earphone jacks on mobile phones very soon. I would put money on Tesla dropping them in Europe shortly.
Latest U.K. electrical regs demand they are fitted on new EV charge points. Either built in to the wall box or a separate device. Unless protected by an earth rod. ( Earth rods bring other issues).

 

[munkypuzel]

Vengy -

Plug in your mobile connector as planed and get 2.3kw charging which is around 7 miles an hour. Slow. Tesla recommend not to use an extension lead but its up to you. Some say this is not good as a permanent solution - others disagree.. PEN fault device not normally required. Some may argue it still is though!

or.

Get a proper charger installed which will charge at 7.5kw and provide approx 30 miles or charge an hour. PEN fault device/earth rod required. I know you said you cant get one installed - but if there is any way possible look into it.

 

[Stuart Carr]

It sucks to be let down when you’re all excited for the big day, but be mindful, you’ve only been delayed a couple days and you’ll still get your precious this quarter!

Try to focus on the positive and get some excitement back for Monday.

For the rest of us, September is still far away…

Anyone on here ordered a model 3 performance at end of April 22. Received the obligatory text from Tesla with a RN number. Leasing company has me down for a sept 30th estimated delivery. Anyone received early?

 

[DrJFoster]

I've had this video pop up in my feed which shows how to set up the phone key, wifi, mobile phone etc. If you're unsure of what you'll do when you get your car it might be worth a watch. For me it answered why I don't get text messages in the car, not that I've tested it yet.

 

[Triumphant885]

Unfortunately my outside socket is fixed to the wall and has no rcd. However it does go to my main breaker box which have rcd's.

However I thought having an rcd anywhere would work. Maybe I need to rethink again.

putting an RCD after an RCD is a waste of time as it will always trip the on in the consumer unit before any after this point would trip. that being said the RCD should be upgraded one one that detect dc leakage as well!

that being said said!! most mobile (granny) chargers have DC protection built in

 

[JOL1]

Can I ask if anyone knows or has direct experience of "requesting a hold on an order for a specified time " and how one goes about this. I had heard that Tesla used to offer this but are getting stricter as people were extending on a repeat basis. Can this be done at any stage or do you need to await being allocated a VIN and a car before initiating Anyone with direct experience able to help..happy to receive a private message, thanks in advance.

 

[Millenium101]

Can I ask if anyone knows or has direct experience of "requesting a hold on an order for a specified time " and how one goes about this. I had heard that Tesla used to offer this but are getting stricter as people were extending on a repeat basis. Can this be done at any stage or do you need to await being allocated a VIN and a car before initiating Anyone with direct experience able to help..happy to receive a private message, thanks in advance.

I did this back in March. At that time they extended it for a maximum of 6 months. I ended up cancelling the extension later on as I wanted the car earlier. Contact them on Tesla chat and they should help.

 

[Wattsisname]

I would if I could, but as mentioned in a previous post, my garage is detached and has no power in it.

The wall chargers require a direct connection to your fuse box which is 20 meters away from my garage.

 

[Wattsisname]

Its 30amps - but that's not the issue anyway. If the land is yours - no problem you can do it. If the land is not yours I completely understand your position.

This is probably a dopy question but I've not to let such considerations stop me:

Why must you charge at the garage?
If you have a front garden or paved space in front of your house', you could have a wall point beside the front door. You could the back the car up overnight plug it.

I have probably missed something in the thread which mentions that you live on the 5th floor of a block or have other sound reasons why my front door suggestion is a non starter.

Good luck with the project.

P.S. To the elastic trickery specialist here: is it correct that a PEN fault is more about an earthing failure of the incoming supply than an issue originating with any plugged in appliance or mobile iPads. (like myMY, Lizzie) ?

 

[vengy2005]

This is probably a dopy question but I've not to let such considerations stop me:

Why must you charge at the garage?
If you have a front garden or paved space in front of your house', you could have a wall point beside the front door. You could the back the car up overnight plug it.

I have probably missed something in the thread which mentions that you live on the 5th floor of a block or have other sound reasons why my front door suggestion is a non starter.

Good luck with the project.

P.S. To the elastic trickery specialist here: is it correct that a PEN fault is more about an earthing failure of the incoming supply than an issue originating with any plugged in appliance or mobile iPads. (like myMY, Lizzie) ?

I have no front garden.
In front of my house is a path and cycle path, so charging at the front will mean leaving a cable across the path which obviously I cannot do.

My back garden is 10 meters long, and then there is a path approximately 2 metres wide, then my garage (back of anyhow)

My garage is underneath coach houses (flats above garages).. hence no power in the garage.

So I cannot run cable at the front.. cannot run cable down the side and around to my garage as this will cross 2 paths and run in front of the first coach House.

The only way I can go is through the back wall or my garden, sneakily underneath the narrow path and into and through my garage onto the drive of the garage.

Hence why I need a box to sit on the outside near the car that's waterproof and vented.

Hope this clears things up a little.

 

[S3XY T3SLA]

This is probably a dopy question but I've not to let such considerations stop me:

Why must you charge at the garage?
If you have a front garden or paved space in front of your house', you could have a wall point beside the front door. You could the back the car up overnight plug it.

I have probably missed something in the thread which mentions that you live on the 5th floor of a block or have other sound reasons why my front door suggestion is a non starter.

Good luck with the project.

P.S. To the elastic trickery specialist here: is it correct that a PEN fault is more about an earthing failure of the incoming supply than an issue originating with any plugged in appliance or mobile iPads. (like myMY, Lizzie) ?

I have the charger on the gable of the house, and can reverse onto paved area to charge. Wall and charger are soon to be engulfed by our Virginia Creeper, though will of course trim round the charger to keep it looking tidy

 

[JOL1]

I have no front garden.
In front of my house is a path and cycle path, so charging at the front will mean leaving a cable across the path which obviously I cannot do.

My back garden is 10 meters long, and then there is a path approximately 2 metres wide, then my garage (back of anyhow)

My garage is underneath coach houses (flats above garages).. hence no power in the garage.

So I cannot run cable at the front.. cannot run cable down the side and around to my garage as this will cross 2 paths and run in front of the first coach House.

The only way I can go is through the back wall or my garden, sneakily underneath the narrow path and into and through my garage onto the drive of the garage.

Hence why I need a box to sit on the outside near the car that's waterproof and vented.

Hope this clears things up a little.

All now perfectly clear ...everyones suggestions (multiple) are meant to be helpful ..but your circumstances are pretty unique. I guess moving house is out of the question

 

[munkypuzel]

The only way I can go is through the back wall or my garden, sneakily underneath the narrow path and into and through my garage onto the drive of the garage.

Hence why I need a box to sit on the outside near the car that's waterproof and vented.

Hope this clears things up a little.

It does help- thanks.. although you could sneakily run a 6mm armoured under the narrow path and then your good to go with real charger!!

 

[Virtual Greg]

This is probably a dopy question but I've not to let such considerations stop me:

Why must you charge at the garage?
If you have a front garden or paved space in front of your house', you could have a wall point beside the front door. You could the back the car up overnight plug it.

I have probably missed something in the thread which mentions that you live on the 5th floor of a block or have other sound reasons why my front door suggestion is a non starter.

Good luck with the project.

P.S. To the elastic trickery specialist here: is it correct that a PEN fault is more about an earthing failure of the incoming supply than an issue originating with any plugged in appliance or mobile iPads. (like myMY, Lizzie) ?

In the U.K. the majority of electrical connections to properties have a “live” connection and a shared “earth/neutral’. In the very rare situation where the “earth/neutral” is broken but the “live” remains connected to the property a PEN disconnection device quickly isolates ALL connections to the EV.

 

[Lewis Smith]

I think this is overkill and not needed with a mobile connector charging at appx 7kwh.

This article
EV Charging at Work: Do I Need a PEN Fault Device?

suggests that only 22kwh and above (3 phase) chargers need pen protection.

This is incorrect advice. All wall connectors need to have PEN fault detection. A lot of new models from various brands have this feature built in. The Tesla gen 3 wall connector however does not… you WILL require a pen fault detection device which is fed from a type A 30ma RCD. You can get a pen fault detection device with a built in type A RCD. But you also need to change the RCD in the consumer unit as you can’t have different types of RCD types on the same circuit as it can cause faults and issues.

 

[mpowney]

G’day mates, I’m popping in here because we over in the Australian forums are comparable to the UK in that: a) we are both right hand drive / left side of the road, and b) we both have our M3 orders manufactured in Shanghai (at least for now).

There’s annoyance brewing over in the equivalent AU forum about delivery time compared to order date. We’re very aware of the Shanghai lockdowns and how this affected deliveries.

Some Aussies who ordered back in December 2021 and even November 2021, who were given estimated delivery dates of weeks, are still waiting for their deliveries.

My specific question(s) for the UK crew is: What’s the earliest UK order for a M3 that is yet to be delivered? Are you all getting your cars quickly now? Is there anyone who has “fallen through the cracks” - that’s ordered earlier than e.g. March 2022 - who has yet to receive their model 3 regardless of variant?

 

[JOL1]

G’day mates, I’m popping in here because we over in the Australian forums are comparable to the UK in that: a) we are both right hand drive / left side of the road, and b) we both have our M3 orders manufactured in Shanghai (at least for now).

There’s annoyance brewing over in the equivalent AU forum about delivery time compared to order date. We’re very aware of the Shanghai lockdowns and how this affected deliveries.

Some Aussies who ordered back in December 2021 and even November 2021, who were given estimated delivery dates of weeks, are still waiting for their deliveries.

My specific question(s) for the UK crew is: What’s the earliest UK order for a M3 that is yet to be delivered? Are you all getting your cars quickly now? Is there anyone who has “fallen through the cracks” - that’s ordered earlier than e.g. March 2022 - who has yet to receive their model 3 regardless of variant?

Check this out courtesy of Frizzy...an active and helpful member of this forum. He has complied a status update of those awaiting delivery ..amongst a lot of other useful stuff

Frizzy DB

Go back to the LinkTree

sites.google.com

 

[Wattsisname]

This is incorrect advice. All wall connectors need to have PEN fault detection. A lot of new models from various brands have this feature built in. The Tesla gen 3 wall connector however does not… you WILL require a pen fault detection device which is fed from a type A 30ma RCD. You can get a pen fault detection device with a built in type A RCD. But you also need to change the RCD in the consumer unit as you can’t have different types of RCD types on the same circuit as it can cause faults and issues.

Yes but...no but... for 100% clarity, The Tesla Gen 3 WallPoint is quite smart; it will receive over the air updates from the mother ship.

Importantly, it has built in Type A RCD Protection and 6milleamp DC protection. But yes, it will need a PEN fault detection device which is a simple, quite small box that goes on the cable run and has a reset switch in the rare event that it trips. You can, by flipping the switch isolate the Wall Point and thereby prevent the one in a billion possibility anyone backing up to your WallPoint while you are on holiday and using your charger for free.
Although, over time, I could see a network of Tesla owners providing a mutually beneficial service whereby, if the the vicinity, a member could pop by for a splash and dash for a nominal payment.

Back to the Gen3, I must say that the electrician who installed mine with its well attached cable run under the stairs and the neat white trunking on top of the skirting, where the cable was visible in the hall, was professionalism personified; no fuss no grumbles, no two hour shopping expeditions to get "stuff" that was not on the van.

I can only speak for this guy, but the whole process was handled very well by his employer, Mr Charger, whom I would recommend unreservedly.

Now then.... SWMBO says " Don't you even think about starting a YouTube channel.."

 

[Wattsisname]

The charging speed is irrelevant. The car could be “live” at 75v ac or more. And as I said even a small current of 100mV can be fatal.
Its up to you to choose not to worry about that. But I would not be happy to have the potential for somebody to receive a fatal shock just by touching my vehicle. PEN issues are very rare but cause serious injuries every year in U.K.

I believe the PEN device is a legal or electric regs and standards requirement designed to prevent "overkill"