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UK Supercharger Site News

Discussion in 'The UK and Ireland' started by WannabeOwner, May 22, 2017.

  1. WannabeOwner

    WannabeOwner Active Member

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    Car has a Count of rapid DC charging and will significant reduce the charge rate if that counter indicates frequent DC charging. But you can do plenty of DC charging before that becomes a factor.

    My time is too valuable to drive to a supercharger and sit there to save some pennies. I drive nearly 30,000 miles a year and all-in Electricity costs me £800. I couldn't (realistically) make enough of a dent in that, using a local Supercharger, to save me enough for even a nice meal out with my wife once a year :)

    But, yeah, its a point, and definitely a psychological one, and there have been people in USA, particularly in the early "unlimited charging days" where people did do exactly that.

    Fair points :) but IME EV-life isn't quite like that.

    EV-life is miserable if you don't have off-street, home charging. But of course there might be a lag between Car Arrive and Wall Charger installed ...

    Home Charging is basically "leave home every morning with full tank". My refuelling in an ICE was, say, 400 miles per fill up, 5 minutes to fill and 5 minutes to queue and pay (including in that the time to get off highway, park and rejoin highway; for folk using Supermarket Petrol they would often also have to queue-for-pump and their time will be longer). So 30,000 miles per year divided by 400 miles/fill-up is 12.5 HOURS A YEAR! All replaced by a few seconds to plug in each evening :)

    It isn't that though, unfortunately. I reckon you've been listening to Elon's Promises :)

    High speed charging occurs from 0% to 60-70% [works out around 10% every 5 minutes, regardless of battery size], slower after that, and painfully slow 95%-100%. I've done a 100% charge once at a Supercharger and it took 52 minutes to get from 95% to 100% (half of which was cell rebalance)

    What you want is a Supercharger on your journey when you will be between 20% and 10% (or lower if you are brave!). Of course if you leave home with a decent charge you can go further before you need that, but the one around the corner is nothing like as good as one that is 50 - 100 miles away, and if you did remember to charge :) to 100% in readiness for the trip, then you can pick one nearer to 200 miles away.

    If you can figure out how, your best bet will be to develop the habit of plugging in every time you come home. 3rd party APPs will happy hassle you every day, at e.g. 9PM, if they find that the car is not plugged in, so you ain't got much excuse!!
     
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    Some pics from Perth (Broxden Park & Ride)...
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  3. WannabeOwner

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    Do you remember how many of the stalls were double-hose combi-CCS? (typically only a couple, but at South Mimms they all stalls were combi, and I wonder if new sites are being done that way?
     
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    All of them were combo as far as I could see.
     
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    What are the chances it'll be 250kw?:)
     
  6. Chuq

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    Zero.
     
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    :( why?
     
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    From the horse's mouth: "Our first non-beta V3 Supercharger site will break ground next month, with North American sites ramping in Q2 and Q3 before coming to Europe and Asia-Pacific in Q4."

    And this particular horse has a track record of being a bit, er, optimistic when it comes to deadlines. So zero sounds about right.

    Introducing V3 Supercharging
     
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  9. IanMcL

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    Great that Perth is live. Look forward to calling in, in July!
     
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    Coming back from France, through Channel Tunnel, there were 2x Superchargers (with dual cables) in the Flexiplus Departure Lounge parking area. I can't see these marked on Tesla's website map. Seems like a much nicer place to park up and charge, if you happen to be coming home using Flexiplus.
     
  11. floppyarms

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    Saw elsewhere that Grantham is getting 8 additional Bays.

    Does anyone know if LFE is likely to proceed?
     
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    I've been to Broxden, and can confirm they are all dual cable/CCS capable.
     
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  13. WannabeOwner

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    Don't think this has come up before?

    I was at Grantham yesterday and looks like they might be putting some more stalls in?

    IMG_5427_TeslaGrantham.jpg

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  14. cezdoc

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    Reading up I think @floppyarms broke the news on here... but nice photos! :)

    I have come to realise "Grantham" is a sort of trigger for folk to complain about other locations in the region that don't have Superchargers :rolleyes:. Not the best-loved of UK Superchargers.

    I've also read that Folkestone Eurotunnel is being expanded from 4 to 8 chargers. I wonder if any other UK sites are getting expanded...?
     
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    Suits me when I'm trogging up / down the A1 :)
     
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    Keele southbound could do with an increase! Full with Manchester Utd fans a couple of weeks ago! Couple of us had to queue! Only 4 bays.

    Well they do that,vthe KFC was full to overflow with these fans, too! Upgrade required?
     
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    Cabinets labelled for Colchester have been spotted at the Best Western hotel, Marks Tey on the A12. That’s a good sign, pretty sparse out there :)
     
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    Ooh, might be a new site :) Definitely Tesla labelling on the cabinets? Was there an area marked out (fences, etc) for the build?
     
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    'Tesla Colchester UK' marked on the units which looked like they had recently been delivered. Nothing else in terms of markings etc
     
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    Based on photos on the UK owner's Facebook group I'd say there are 6 charger cabinets = 12 stalls and the location is towards the southwest corner of the hotel carpark, approx coordinates (51.88070, 0.788900). As @DJP31 says the photos clearly show labelling on the charge units indicating they are 135 kW Supercharger II (i.e. current V2 generation) cabinets and the site name is "Colchester".

    I'd pop a note to Supercharge.info but it now seems to be blocked by the office firewall!
     
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