Impossible to prove the speed, unless your car was taken to have the speedometer calibrated along with the FPS of your submitted video. Speed alone will constitute enough evidence for dangerous driving, The no insurance will obviously be able to prove, assuming that the registered keeper completed the NIP correctly.Well not a waste of time actually....I was informed the driver was being charged with the offences of Dangerous Driving and No Insurance.
Whatever their calculations were regarding the speed (and I assume they wouldn't need an exact speed, just an estimated figure that showed the level of speed/driving was dangerous), I think it's pretty clear that the speed was significantly above 100mph bearing in mind I was doing 70mph when the vehicle passed me.
Either way, reporting these incidents is important and it's then up to the CPS to decide whether there's enough evidence to prosecute.
The burden of proof remains high for the offence of dangerous driving, much often these offences are dropped to driving without due care and attention as they are much easier to prove and gain conviction.Genuine question. It's not always speed that gets prosecuted? Surely dangerous driving regardless of speed can lead to prosecution?
Agreed, but remember, a prosecution is not a conviction and the burden of proof for dangerous driving is high and conviction rates are considerably lower than the lesser offences. See below extract.I have uploaded 3 separate incidents of DANGEROUS driving caught on my dashcam. All have resulted in police prosecutions. I could probably submit 10 incidents a day, given the appalling standard of driving today, but that would only overload the police system.
This. Driving home after picking up SWMBO's M3LR last year, I got a loud horn blast from a following truck in heavy traffic on the M6. Took me a few more miles to figure out that he must've thought I'd brake-checked him.If road raging against EVs really is above normal (I'm not sure it is), I have a theory about why this might be. Regenerative braking.
In ICE vehicles, we commonly maintain a close following distance by alternately hitting and releasing the accelerator. You can drive an EV this way, but with regen braking you will not only decelerate faster, you will illuminate your brake lights.
I've been driving my M3 for a few months now, and I think I am not only pretty smooth with the accelerator modulation (i.e., not releasing all the way), I am also more keenly aware of when I'm likely to be illuminating my brake lights. When I started, my technique was certainly rougher. I can imagine drivers behind me could have mistaken my releasing the accelerator as brake-checking.
My earlier comment failed to factor the ability to notch up some conviction stats whilst eating donuts. That beats overtime watching colleagues get a protester out of a tree. I will upload too going forward.I have uploaded 3 separate incidents of DANGEROUS driving caught on my dashcam. All have resulted in police prosecutions. I could probably submit 10 incidents a day, given the appalling standard of driving today, but that would only overload the police system.
I respectfully disagree.That will not end in a successful prosecution, due to the fact that it will be almost impossible to calculate the speed using that camera angle, even using simple maths on time and distance. You wasted your time.
Believe me, unless the video equipment itself is seized and then forensically examined/calibrated and then the road visited, closed and fully surveyed. the video will not stand in court and entered into evidence as proof of speed. This type of procedure is only used in fatal collisions or serious life changing collisions.I respectfully disagree.
We know that motorways around the M25 have lamp posts every 50.0m, and dashed white lines at 9.0m intervals, so 10 = 90.0m.
Observers car is doing 10 white lines every 82/83 frames of a 30.0fps camera (Mobius by the looks of it).
Speed = distance / time, 90m / ( 2.76/3600 ) = 117.4km/h or 72.9mph at the point the Skyline flys past, give or take.
Skyline takes approx 31 frames for 10 white lines (+/-1 frame), counted from the observers moving car.
Its therefore crossing 90m in 1.03seconds
90m (1.03/3600) = 313kmh = 194 mph +/- 3%, so somewhere between 187 mph and 201 mph !!!
No matter which way you look at it, the Skyline is doing triple the UK speed limit .. in the wet …
I'm guessing you're looking for anyone else other than me, seeing as I'd already waffled on about my experiences, but I'll carry on waffling regardlessOn this subject has anyone else experianced other (ICE) drivers trying to goad them into racing?
Not just Teslas of course. I've been behind other EVs and Hybrids with regen where the brake lights are constantly going on and off even when there's no reason to slow down for anything. Some drivers just can't maintain a constant throttle regardless of what vehicle the're driving.Interesting discussion. I definitely think there is an element of the way Tesla’s work. Slowing down by simply lifting off the accelerator can be been by those behind as unnecessary ‘aggressive braking’, when the brake light comes on. Especially in slowing moving traffic.