So, about 2 O'clock this afternoon I said to myself, "I gotta visit the local VW dealer and see what the climate is like". I drove down to my dealer where I had bought a Jetta TDI in 2010 whcih my son still has as we wait for Model 3. Of course, the salesmen came out to look at my Model S as they always do. These are very nice people at Ventura VW, they always have been. I suggested to the employees I spoke to that the owners of the dealership have been ripped off to an even greater degree than the consumers, the employees fully agreed with me. Think about it...the dealership built a building, supplied service, employees, advertising etc, at huge cost all the while under the assumption VW would supply legal cars.
I asked if they had recent buyers of TDI's asking for their money back. They told me that nobody has made this request. They told me two people came in hoping to get a TDI while they still could. Of course, they could not. But both these customers put down deposits for if/when the TDI would be available again. My guess these customers have not thought it through. Even if they can get a TDI, it likely will not be the nice driving car they test drove.
Years ago, I was a pro mechanic for VW, Audi, Porsche and even Renault, Citroen, and Peugeot. Most here and on other forums are concerned with lower MPG and performance should the software simply be switched on "emissions mode" permanently. I think there is the grave possibility that the TDI could self destruct within 100 miles under such conditions. Should "emissions mode" result in any substantial change in mixture, meaning more lean or more rich, you could be looking at severe head temps or motor oil dilution. Either would destroy the engine rapidly.
Me, I hope VW has to buy my TDI back at full purchase price as at no time had I ever received the car that I had paid my money for. To only refund me $3500 for the diesel option would not suffice.
They way I see it, besides the EPA, Jerry Brown, and the Justice Department on VW's butts, the class action lawsuits will be not just from consumers, but you will have stock holders who lost 20% today and you will actually have the VW dealerships as well.
I asked if they had recent buyers of TDI's asking for their money back. They told me that nobody has made this request. They told me two people came in hoping to get a TDI while they still could. Of course, they could not. But both these customers put down deposits for if/when the TDI would be available again. My guess these customers have not thought it through. Even if they can get a TDI, it likely will not be the nice driving car they test drove.
Years ago, I was a pro mechanic for VW, Audi, Porsche and even Renault, Citroen, and Peugeot. Most here and on other forums are concerned with lower MPG and performance should the software simply be switched on "emissions mode" permanently. I think there is the grave possibility that the TDI could self destruct within 100 miles under such conditions. Should "emissions mode" result in any substantial change in mixture, meaning more lean or more rich, you could be looking at severe head temps or motor oil dilution. Either would destroy the engine rapidly.
Me, I hope VW has to buy my TDI back at full purchase price as at no time had I ever received the car that I had paid my money for. To only refund me $3500 for the diesel option would not suffice.
They way I see it, besides the EPA, Jerry Brown, and the Justice Department on VW's butts, the class action lawsuits will be not just from consumers, but you will have stock holders who lost 20% today and you will actually have the VW dealerships as well.
