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This is funny - I feel the total opposite
When my year of free premium connectivity expired, I didn't even notice.
Okay, that's not true - I *did* notice... but I didn't use or value any of the premium features enough at all to pay for them.
- Prefer vector tiles to satellite imagery
- Used streaming music, but Bluetooth is just as good
- Browser... meh
- Traffic markings, don't even look at them
- Netflix/Hulu... nah
The free premium connectivity was based on when the car was ordered, not when it was delivered. It had to be ordered before June 30th, 2018. I ordered mine on June 28th, but didn't take delivery until November 2018, and I have free premium connectivity.Note that my model 3P is Dec 2018, and does NOT have free premium connectivity, so the only way you would get that would be to buy a 2018 model 3 that was made and delivered before the end of the third quarter of 2018.
I would definitely buy new if it were me, since you dont care about the acceleration, you should be looking at a LFP RWD model 3, at least in my opinion. The stuff you would be "losing" is not that big a deal, and you still are not saving a ton of money used over new, at least not yet.
This is funny - I feel the total opposite
When my year of free premium connectivity expired, I didn't even notice.
Okay, that's not true - I *did* notice... but I didn't use or value any of the premium features enough at all to pay for them.
- Prefer vector tiles to satellite imagery
- Used streaming music, but Bluetooth is just as good
- Browser... meh
- Traffic markings, don't even look at them
- Netflix/Hulu... nah
Hard to tell. Who knows what's going to be in/missing from car. Wait until at least January.So in another thread I detailed my experience of crashing my Tesla (2018 RWD LR), first accident of any kind in 30 years so I guess my time had come. Now I have $37k in hand and want another model3.
My 2018 had 81,000 miles and most importantly free super charging for life. I spent about $900 on electricity for those 81,000 miles!
I will never get that again but I am thinking that maybe it's better to go second hand for an older model as they have taken away a bunch of the older perks.
I don't care too much about dual motor, acceleration was fine in RWD, I do want the 300 mile range I had (It was about 290 after 5 years). I also want EAP but not FSD and premium audio.
Is there a specific year that's the sweet spot perhaps. A year that includes the lifetime premium connectivity, the EAP, fixes some of the early teething issues etc.?
I am thinking a model with the heatpump heater might be better than the 2018 like mine and the newer v3 computer.
I am also thinking a car that still has some warranty left would be prudent at this stage. For a car without warranty, anything to check? Some of those ball joints maybe ?
Are the changes made to the latest model3 really that great that losing things like free internet etc. are worth it?
Any thoughts on where to buy a car? I mean they are reliable for the most part, so even craigslist may be fine I am thinking. Carvana? Tesla used seems a bit of a ripoff/lottery at least.
Experience, thank you for taking the time to detail that!So much easier than all of that … just look at “Cabin Heater:” line in the Software - Additional Vehicle Info menu.
Experience, thank you for taking the time to detail that!
On the topic of heat pumps, of the ones that were failing, was there any time period of manufacturing those were more likely to fail?
And was the actual reason they were failing, manufacturing and/or operational parameters ever disclosed?
Ryzen infotainment CPU started in early calendar year 2022. Some early model year 2022 cars had the Atom infotainment CPU.I think the 2022 models that have the Ryzen chip, right before the sensors were removed.
(Assuming US market.)Short answer is that new cars are the best value by far. Used prices have plummeted this month but are still absurdly overinflated.
Long answer is: 2021 models were a significant upgrade. Anything labeled 2021 or newer will have the heat pump, black trim, power trunk, ugly wheels, and a non-combative center console. 2nd quarter 2021 builds (March-May) had the most features as they were the first to include laminated side windows and matrix headlights. While 3rd/4th quarter cars were the first to remove significant features like USB connectivity and passenger lumbar.
2022 models are also a significant upgrade. The Ryzen processor makes the entire infotainment system completely usable. Even Hulu, Youtube, Sentry, and the browser are usable. And the lithium 12V battery should greatly reduce the risk of becoming randomly stranded every 2-3 years. Radar was removed in 2022.
Minor correction: Around the beginning of November 2021 is when front USB data went away. Beginning of Nov 2021 is also when 2022 model year started. Probably not 100% exact correlation but the timing was very close, in general 2022 model year means no front USB data (charging only). Most or all October 2021 Model 3's should still have front USB data.Short answer is that new cars are the best value by far. Used prices have plummeted this month but are still absurdly overinflated.
Long answer is: 2021 models were a significant upgrade. Anything labeled 2021 or newer will have the heat pump, black trim, power trunk, ugly wheels, and a non-combative center console. 2nd quarter 2021 builds (March-May) were the most feature-rich Model 3's ever produced as they were the first to include laminated side windows and matrix headlights. While 3rd/4th quarter cars were the first to remove significant features like USB connectivity and passenger lumbar.
Clarification: Radar sensor was no longer installed as of mid-2021 (sometime in May or April IIRC). However for all AP3 (HW3) cars, which Tesla started building with years ago, radar software was removed in OTA update in 2022, so no HW3 car use it anymore (unless blocked from OTA track).2022 models are also a significant upgrade. The Ryzen processor makes the entire infotainment system completely usable. Even Hulu, Youtube, Sentry, and the browser are usable. And the lithium 12V battery should greatly reduce the risk of becoming randomly stranded every 2-3 years. Radar was removed in 2022.
I agree premium connectivity is cheap in comparison to the cost of the car.2023 models have "upgraded" bumpers with no unsightly ultrasonic sensors. These have the greatest number of removed features (Radar, Sonar, Homelink, USB, lumbar), the highest price ever, and are the best value.
Premium connectivity and/or free supercharging only amount to a few hundred dollars over a typical ownership period. It's not even a factor unless you're an uber driver.
P.S. the Model 3 never had the janky heat pump with Home Depot corner molding. That was only done on a handful of the very earliest 2020 Model Y's.