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And don't forget all of us (including you and me) who have cars and reservations and who voice what we consider reasonably criticism and then get yelled down by the people who don't want to accept any criticism.Seems to me there's been a recurring theme lately of people without cars or even reservations coming onto this forum to tell us how bad the Model X is or how terrible the company is.
How can there be no event or fanfare? There certainly was both for the Model S launch.
Pretty sure Steve Jurvetson took delivery that day with all the cameras rolling. He was Founders #1. Elon was #2. Does Elon still drive his original car? Anyone know?
And, here is the earlier delivery event video for the Founder's Model S.For those interested in a little nostalgia here is the initial delivery event for the Model S. Very cool and lots of emotion all around including I'm sure many of us who watched the event on the web in great anticipation of an historical event!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMgzCnspapo
Well, there are the people who bought a P85D in late fall 2014 with next gen seats and autopilot. They got their seats six months after they got the car. And they still have no full autopilot.
Here's my cynical take on the Model X "launch":
It seems to me that Founders cars are the early alphas.
In a few months we'll get the first beta cars (called "Signature").
At some point next year they will start shipping V1.0 of this car to the first few thousand P reservation holders.
Then mid next year there will be several significant HW changes, different battery technology with faster supercharging, new HW required to get /actual/ working AP... and V2.0 will be out. Of course without any actual announcement, without an organized cut-off / communication, and without a way to retrofit. Early customers who complain will be labeled as whiners and be told to shut up because they are driving the most amazing car in the world...
Sound familiar to anyone?
An order reservation number is not the same thing as a VIN.I'm missing the plot here. If members here are lining up for, VIN 2 etc. , then what numbers do Founders get?
Ahhh, I miss George. Especially when he was trying to keep Elon from sticking his foot in his mouth. ;-)For those interested in a little nostalgia here is the initial delivery event for the Model S. Very cool and lots of emotion all around including I'm sure many of us who watched the event on the web in great anticipation of an historical event!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMgzCnspapo
An order reservation number is not the same thing as a VIN.
Ahhh, I miss George. Especially when he was trying to keep Elon from sticking his foot in his mouth. ;-)
With that being said, I agree that the Sept. 29th deliveries are only occurring so Tesla can say they hit their deadline and there is no delay.
*cough* You mean "there is no further delay"... We forget so quickly they targeted 2013. Not sure why this Q3 deadline became so important when they've continually blown through all the previous ones...
If there is delays, as many on this thread believe, than Tesla really shouldn't have "The delivery estimate for newon there website. Even if they are fully ready to go, "early" 2016 seems a real stretch to get through all pre-orders.
reservations is early 2016"
If there is delays, as many on this thread believe, than Tesla really shouldn't have "The delivery estimate for newon there website. Even if they are fully ready to go, "early" 2016 seems a real stretch to get through all pre-orders.
reservations is early 2016"
In Tesla time "early 2016" likely lasts until about August 2016. Actually, if I base it on the CHAdeMO adapter then "early 2016" ranges way into 2017...
Also, how long it takes depends in part on the cancellation ratio. Maybe they expect a third of us to walk?
It would appear that Sig #448 was asked to configure. I don't believe that Tesla is anywhere close to having 448 confirmed reservations at this point. Therefore, I suspect that a lot of Signature holders have deferred their reservation until more information is available (Sept 29th?). If my theory is correct, then I would expect a lot of Sigs to confirm shortly after Sept 29th at which point Tesla will be flooded with orders. That would mean that they may not invite new Sigs to configure for quite some time (all of October?) until they get through all the orders.
I suspect that some will cancel as well, so any people on the Sig waiting list may be contacted in October. All speculation of course.
Has there been any official communication that more details will be released on the 29th, or are you basing that on the known facts of:
1. Elon saying details won't be released until cars are delivered.
2. Founders cars are being delivered on the 29th.
I am very hopeful that there will be more information, but I have seen anyone post anything official from Tesla that there will be more information as of the 29th. If it's been told to a sig res holder by Tesla directly, I may have missed it but that would be great news.