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ModelNforNerd
Active Member
i have a 1-car garage, and i spend a lot of time in the city. it's me, my wife and 2 small dogs, so a model s is too big. a model 3 works out to be just the right size, and will actually be slightly bigger than either car we have right now.
that's why
eye.surgeon
Active Member
Frankly I don't know why anyone would want one of the first production of the new model. The S was very buggy the first few thousand produced. I'd much rather give the line 6-12 months to get quality sorted.
Send it to Doctors Without Borders or something
Stop it it's not healthy
In 2 years there will be number of smaller then Mod S options with ~200 mile range. Most of then do not need an advanced reservation.
Stop going "extended" distances. After all, EVs produce CO2 emission too, just less and slightly away.
New Leaf will be released around the same time as Bolt. Do you have anything against Nissan?
Just don't. In exchange I will not worry about water in the stop lights (model S) or uneven gaps between panels on Model X
Never ever had any problems with BMW or Audi or MB service. I suspect it somehow correlated with how much you overpaid for your car.
I really appreciate, that you are not bringing cross-country trips. I'm surprised.
Oh! I published a couple of pictures of Mod X founders batch. Assembly quality was exceptionally bad.
Krugerrand
Meow
Bimbels
GoldMember
I say he definitely should NOT reserve any Tesla. It sounds like the bolt/volt/leaf/i3 is more than suited for his tastes.
More like 1/2 then 1/3. And 200 mile range Leaf will be available for sure before Model E
Funny, but I canceled my Model X reservation just last week. Still waiting for my $5k.
Shame on you. A highly educated one percenter should know, that there are no basements in Bay AreaNow I know you live in your Mom's basement. There's nothing enjoyable about an 8hr flight from LAX to NYC; even if they're serving alcohol. I think I heard the doorbell; your pizza has arrived.
.52 hours of driving non-stop are surely more enjoyable
Krugerrand
Meow
Shame on you. A highly educated one percenter should know, that there are no basements in Bay Area
52 hours of driving non-stop are surely more enjoyable
Shame on you for assuming I'm highly educated or a one percenter. I didn't assume you were in the Bay Area simply because you put that down as your location, surely you didn't assume I was in California because that's what I put down as my location. Should I presume your family and friends call you cfttester?
52 hours of driving non-stop wouldn't be enjoyable, but then nobody does that anyway...unless you're doing a Cannonball run, or trying to set a World Record of some sort, or trying to come up with content for that novel you've been working on for 6 years that nobody is going to buy (how many empty soda cans do you need for a 52 hour non-stop drive?), or some other one-off. Without even mentioning that it's not even possible to drive non-stop for 52 hours. How are we refueling your i3 with REX without stopping? How's your Leaf Autopilot work so you can keep going and catch a few z's? So yeah, silly argument, grasping at straws, nothing of substance, etc., etc., etc...
It's only 52 hours of driving if you're using chademo or CCS chargers
I own a Leaf now, there is absolutely nothing Nissan can do or release that will cause me to choose the Leaf 2 over a Tesla. Almost every Leaf owner I've met locally agrees with me.
You're not doing a very good job at trolling.
Bimbels
GoldMember
No shame on meShame on you for assuming I'm highly educated or a one percenter. I didn't assume you were in the Bay Area simply because you put that down as your location, surely you didn't assume I was in California because that's what I put down as my location. Should I presume your family and friends call you cfttester?
. You assumed I'm living on my mom's basement, so I naturally assume you are a one percenter.Are you seriously comparing cars that are already in production for 3-5 years with a car that hopefully will be in production in 3-5 years?
Me too. And I had Mod X reservation and there is absolutely nothing Tesla Motors could offer that I will make a reservation with them again. When their cars will be available "in store" - call me. I might be in a timeframe to buy a new car.
That's your choice. Enjoy your dependency on gasoline, because a Leaf with 200 miles of range is just as much a local-only driver as a Leaf is. The "local" area is just larger.
Petra
Member
First off, 99 adds at least 30 minutes to the trip vs. I-5. Secondly, fly to San Jose? Pfft, please.
Flying to San Jose would mean driving one to two hours each way to an airport (depending on whether I'd be flying out of BUR or LAX), plus wait time, plus flight time, plus car rental from SJC, plus drive time to destination. On top of that, the flight would have to be scheduled with a return well in advance, I really couldn't take stuff with me, it would cost money (like $430 round trip, assuming booking months in advance and avoiding holidays), and overall would just be a real PITA.
Driving takes 5 hours non-stop by ICE and about 5.5 hours in the Model S due to the charging stop, I can do whatever I want from a scheduling standpoint, I don't have to drive into LA proper, I can take whatever I want with me (as well as shop up there and bring stuff back without concern), it's more relaxing, and doesn't actually cost me anything other than my time and a little bit of wear on the Model S (haven't paid for electricity for years thanks to PV and TOU net metering). Even driving my ICE didn't cost more than $100 round trip when gas was more expensive.
Tam
Well-Known Member
That is perfectly fine for most people when you talk about air transportation.
When I started to look at ordering a Model S, people told me a 40 kWh battery Model would be fine for me.
They told me, if I need to drive further, either rent a car or fly.
I am glad I did not listen to them.
I am done with being molested by those touchy hands at an airport security line.
I've had it with being scanned with their "harmless" rays at an airport.
I would take my slow Tesla rather a fast airplane if I have a choice.
And so far, for the past 4 years, I have been doing that with my Tesla in a radius as far south as San Diego, as far east as Las Vegas, and as far north as Sacramento.
All those with practically zero cost for fuel on the road (85 kWh owners all already paid the fuel cost as it's a built-in total purchase price.)
Flying by yourself alone may not be that expensive, but when you start doubling up or bringing a whole family of 4 or 5, then the flying cost may not be cheap anymore.
However, that is still off topic.
However, if you want to go off topic and praise how great it is at an airport security line, then that is perfectly fine.
I quit that for the past 4 years and don't intend to ever do that again!
If a gasoline car can do a cross country trip without be lost because some gas stations were out-of-order, then can an Electric Car reliably do the same? And which one can do so with the least time?
You do realize that the Bolt doesn't support CHAdeMO, right, but the Tesla does.
