I am in need of an adapter something fierce. I'm getting stationed in Germany for 3 years and really want to take my 3. Tesla and Musk are quiet on the support for the troops, it makes me sad.
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Why does Model 3 need CCS/CHAdeMO adapter? This is why.
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Derek Kessler
Active Member
As one of the troops myself, let's not throw out such daggers. This isn't about "support for the troops", it's about cross-compatibility with international standards, which has always been a problem with a great many cars. If you're going to spend three years in Germany and want transportation, you'd be better off buying a car locally.
israndy
Supercharger Hunter
Yeah, I love my RV and would love to drive it all over Europe, Scandinavia, and the sub-continent. But it's designed for 110v and they use 220v over there. I would need to replace the fridge, the water heater, the power converter, and the A/C.
That makes me sad, I too blame Elon for my difficulties.
-Randy
That makes me sad, I too blame Elon for my difficulties.
-Randy
The CCS standard does not allow for adapters. I'm not really sure how this is working with Europe, but I suspect an exception is being allowed due to Germany's CCS requirement.
Yeah, I love my RV and would love to drive it all over Europe, Scandinavia, and the sub-continent. But it's designed for 110v and they use 220v over there. I would need to replace the fridge, the water heater, the power converter, and the A/C.
That makes me sad, I too blame Elon for my difficulties.
-Randy
Install a step down transformer in the RV. That would allow you to keep your appliances and also switch back and forth if needed.
Eno Deb
Active Member
I keep seeing these claims, but I have the CCS specification (which you can request for free from Charin) and haven't found anything saying that adapters aren't allowed. Where did you get this information?
Word of mouth, I suppose. I did a quick search yesterday and was not able to verify that claim. I requested information from Charin yesterday but haven't received a reply yet.
CCS stations are now open at Walmarts near me. They say up to 350KW charging on them. Superchargers are not near my house. A CCS adapter would be a great thing to have.
Yes I have a wall adapter at home and can charge at 11.5 KWH in my garage. But, would be nice if I could zip over to the Walmart 2 miles away and essentially supercharge if I am pressed for time. Driving 30 miles to the supercharger is not really a great option.
Yes I have a wall adapter at home and can charge at 11.5 KWH in my garage. But, would be nice if I could zip over to the Walmart 2 miles away and essentially supercharge if I am pressed for time. Driving 30 miles to the supercharger is not really a great option.
EfficientWatts
Member
I went through this a while back. I've taken a second look at the site and these are the only things that I could find about adapters:
https://www.charinev.org/fileadmin/.../Position_CharIN_towards_new_standards_V4.pdf
https://www.charinev.org/fileadmin/...harIN_One_Pager_Connectors_used_worldwide.pdf
At least based on these statements, they don't like them but they've stopped short of outright banning them.
Step down transformers are so easy to get. Show up at any big box builders supply and there are lots of choices depending on demand. The main reason they are so easily available is that Heavy duty tools in construction need to be 110 volt not 220V. Ever had a 220v hit? its not fun.Yeah, I love my RV and would love to drive it all over Europe, Scandinavia, and the sub-continent. But it's designed for 110v and they use 220v over there. I would need to replace the fridge, the water heater, the power converter, and the A/C.
That makes me sad, I too blame Elon for my difficulties.
-Randy
We haven't taken possession of our Model 3 yet. As we live more than 150miles from a Tesla shop, they offer this a a free service. So rather than drive 310 miles of snow packed road across 2 mountain ranges, we thought, WTH bring it to us. But I've got the 14-50 with 60 amp breaker installed, and yes i followed Tesla's installation recommendations for 6AWg THHN even though code states that for the distance from the breaker to the outlet shows 8 would do. We are currently 110 miles from the nearest SC in one direction and 130 if we went into Canada. We travel to Vancouver quite a lot each year and the closest enroute SC is 200 miles away, not really a problem even for winter if we head out full.
But there are a lot of small towns along the route thru just north of the border that have level 2 chargers. Nearly all of them free as they are attached to the tourist offices. A couple of these towns are also listed by Tesla as "Coming in 2019" for SC. So in the mean time we could top up at our normal ICE fuel stop and coffee if we had a Level 2 adaptor. So where do we get one??
FYI, there are many Chamde Mo chargers in Vancouver again at tourist offices, they are nearly all listed as free, its an incentive by the City and Province to attract tourists.
MTB
But there are a lot of small towns along the route thru just north of the border that have level 2 chargers. Nearly all of them free as they are attached to the tourist offices. A couple of these towns are also listed by Tesla as "Coming in 2019" for SC. So in the mean time we could top up at our normal ICE fuel stop and coffee if we had a Level 2 adaptor. So where do we get one??
FYI, there are many Chamde Mo chargers in Vancouver again at tourist offices, they are nearly all listed as free, its an incentive by the City and Province to attract tourists.
MTB
Thanks,
I've searched Tesla's sight to see whats in the bag in the trunk and couldn't find anything.
The agent I'm working with is less than forthcoming.
Yes, it will be in the charging bag that comes with the car. Someone was asking about what this adapter was for, because they didn't know what it was. There are pictures of it in this thread:
What is this plug used for?
I’m with you. Brand new Tesla 3 owner. Fair coverage of superchargers around me, but LOTS of free chargers including the fast DC BC Hydro chargers with CCS plugs. Pull in with my J1772 adapter thinking this is pretty cool, but no go. SEVERLY limits my range in the hinterland of B.C. It’s amazing that Tesla hasn’t thought this one through......
What?! That is an obvious violation of code. You can't have higher than a 50A breaker for that.
No, clearly not!
Cheburashka
Active Member
Not necessarily. I have a free Chademo station (always empty!) that is closer to my house than the nearest supercharger (always full!).
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