So good! Thanks for sharing that pic.To be honest, I just kind of peeked in one box - they are quite well packed. looked pretty darn good to me! I saved some pics I found online of R187’s on someo else’s M3 - see below.
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So good! Thanks for sharing that pic.To be honest, I just kind of peeked in one box - they are quite well packed. looked pretty darn good to me! I saved some pics I found online of R187’s on someo else’s M3 - see below.
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super!! I ordered 241 very good too.To be honest, I just kind of peeked in one box - they are quite well packed. looked pretty darn good to me! I saved some pics I found online of R187’s on someo else’s M3 - see below.
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Not sure about what Tire Rack carries, but 2021 M3’s definitely use the Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE) TPMS sensors. I searched highly and low but from what I could find, the only reliable place to buy them is direct from Tesla, although some retailers are offering them, but with a markup above the Tesla price.So is it my understanding that the 2021 M3 use BLE TPMS sensors? So the TPMS sensors tire rack offers with a wheel/tire package will cause a TPMS malfunction error on a set of winters?
For the cost of the wheels and eventual TPMS I'm better waiting for the 18in aero wheels to come back in stock.Not sure about what Tire Rack carries, but 2021 M3’s definitely use the Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE) TPMS sensors. I searched highly and low but from what I could find, the only reliable place to buy them is direct from Tesla, although some retailers are offering them, but with a markup above the Tesla price.
This was the conclusion I came to back in the fall of 2018…once one “bottom lines” the whole package, the Tesla winter tire/wheel package was a great value and has been of excellent service for the past three winters…For the cost of the wheels and eventual TPMS I'm better waiting for the 18in aero wheels to come back in stock.
Provided that that those are the tires that you want, which I did not.This was the conclusion I came to back in the fall of 2018…once one “bottom lines” the whole package, the Tesla winter tire/wheel package was a great value and has been of excellent service for the past three winters…
Well that’s the catch. I don’t believe the sottozero 2’s are bad winter tires, they’re not blizzaks amd if I had my choice I’d go with Michelin ice-x’s.Provided that that those are the tires that you want, which I did not.
I was pleasantly surprised when using the Sottozeros.Based on what I have read, the Pirelli's favour dry cold high-performance and efficiency over traction in snow and slush. All tires are a trade-off, and I understand that the Sottozeros very competently achieve the trade-off that they intend. But that is not the trade-off that I wanted.
I've had Blizzaks, X-Ice, and Sottozero 3s on a number of cars over the years. While the Sottozeros don't have quite the ultimate grip on snow and ice that the Blizzaks or X-Ice have, they're surprisingly close. I also have experience with Continental DWS-06 which are very good for an all season tire. If I rated the tires for ice and snow with the stock Primacy MXM4s being a 1 and the Blizzaks being a 10. I'd rate the DWS-06 a 5, the Sottozero 3s 8.5, and the X-Ice 9.5. Also, Blizzaks tend to fall off quite a bit with wear; at half tread I'd rate them an 8. The X-Ice seem to hold up better.Based on what I have read, the Pirelli's favour dry cold high-performance and efficiency over traction in snow and slush. All tires are a trade-off, and I understand that the Sottozeros very competently achieve the trade-off that they intend. But that is not the trade-off that I wanted.
Because I ordered the SR+ I decided to go with the X-Ice. Being in Chicago where the temp stays butt f'ing cold for a solid 3 mos, ice and slush are common. I felt like better snow and ice traction should take precedence given the car is RWD. They're they same tires I had on my BMW and thought they were better than Blizzaks without taking the tread life hit when the roads are dry.I've had Blizzaks, X-Ice, and Sottozero 3s on a number of cars over the years. While the Sottozeros don't have quite the ultimate grip on snow and ice that the Blizzaks or X-Ice have, they're surprisingly close. I also have experience with Continental DWS-06 which are very good for an all season tire. If I rated the tires for ice and snow with the stock Primacy MXM4s being a 1 and the Blizzaks being a 10. I'd rate the DWS-06 a 5, the Sottozero 3s 8.5, and the X-Ice 9.5. Also, Blizzaks tend to fall off quite a bit with wear; at half tread I'd rate them an 8. The X-Ice seem to hold up better.
The Sottozero 3s do have some significant advantages. They handle, stop, and go much better than Blizzaks or X-Ice in dry or wet weather. The steering response and wet weather stopping distances in particular are hugely better.
Basically, if you're driving on ice, snow, and slush more than half the time, I'd go for X-Ice or something similar. If you spend more than half the time in winter on dry or wet ground, Sottozero 3s or something comparable are the way to go.
I’m not a subject matter expert but I do know that pure “summer” tires will turn rock hard at cold temperatures.Probably an easy question for you all.. Thanks in advance for any thoughts!
I just took delivery recently of a new Model 3 Performance, so it came with the Pirelli summer tires and the Uberturbines. I typically drive to and back from Chicago once a year for Christmas, spending about a week up there. Obviously it gets significantly colder there than FL winters but there generally isn't snow when I'm there. Do you all think I still need all seasons or winter tires for this kind of use case? If so, any recommendations? I assume the answer is most likely yes but figured it's worth checking on.
I am one of the few people as far as I can tell who actually likes the Uberturbines and I'd probably go for a staggered setup of 19/20" x 8.5" and 19"/20" x 10". I know I missed Labor Day sales, so I'd aim for Black Friday as it isn't super urgent in FL, but is it generally most cost effective to go for wheel + tire packages or to get them separately and then have them mounted?
Running the Model 3 Performance stock tires in temperatures below freezing, or on ice and snow, is a very bad idea. If you're lucky, you'll just have a lot of trouble getting around; if you're not lucky, you'll be looking for a new car after yours gets in a nasty accident. We won't even talk about really unlucky. If you want to stick with the stock wheels, and you're willing to trade off a bit of dry weather performance, I'd go up one size to 245/35R20 with something like a Vredstein Quatrac Pro or a Continental DWS-06 Plus. These tires will still be very susceptible to damage due to potholes due to the low profile, but at least they should have good traction in the dry and wet, and adequate traction in typical Chicago winter conditions.Probably an easy question for you all.. Thanks in advance for any thoughts!
I just took delivery recently of a new Model 3 Performance, so it came with the Pirelli summer tires and the Uberturbines. I typically drive to and back from Chicago once a year for Christmas, spending about a week up there. Obviously it gets significantly colder there than FL winters but there generally isn't snow when I'm there. Do you all think I still need all seasons or winter tires for this kind of use case? If so, any recommendations? I assume the answer is most likely yes but figured it's worth checking on.
I am one of the few people as far as I can tell who actually likes the Uberturbines and I'd probably go for a staggered setup of 19/20" x 8.5" and 19"/20" x 10". I know I missed Labor Day sales, so I'd aim for Black Friday as it isn't super urgent in FL, but is it generally most cost effective to go for wheel + tire packages or to get them separately and then have them mounted?