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You might not-and frankly neither would I given the cost of a new rig. But plenty of pickup owners do, within the limits of their vehicle. Many more take them on rough, rocky, steep hills. And others do go mudding with them. All on top of hauling trailers on rough roads into places you'd never expect to see one. Not all truck owners live in the suburbs and just commute with them. I expect Cybertruck will do well actually being used as a truck. Lots of people spend a pile of money on Raptors for their off road capabilities.Cybtrk is a pickup. It is NOT a rock crawler. I would not take my F250s or -350s crawling, nor would I take Tesla’s, nor any long wheelbase, wide rig, any more than I would hitch a team of 12 Maine Coons to a sled even if race organizers did call it the Iditacat.
You might not-and frankly neither would I given the cost of a new rig. But plenty of pickup owners do, within the limits of their vehicle. Many more take them on rough, rocky, steep hills. And others do go mudding with them. All on top of hauling trailers on rough roads into places you'd never expect to see one.NotNearly all truck owners live in the suburbs and just commute with them. I expect Cybertruck will do well actually being used as a truck. Lots of people spend a pile of money on Raptors for their off road capabilities.
Many, and perhaps most, yes. Nearly al-no. I've lived in rural areas all my life, where pickups are as common as Teslas in California. Plenty actually do use trucks as trucks.FTFY
Many, and perhaps most, yes. Nearly al-no. I've lived in rural areas all my life, where pickups are as common as Teslas in California. Plenty actually do use trucks as trucks.
I'd love to see the stats on new truck buyers who say they intend to do towing, hauling, and off-roading. I bet it's close to 100%.Best stats I'm aware of are:
75 percent of truck owners use their truck for towing one time a year or less Nearly 70 percent of truck owners go off-road one time a year or less. And a full 35 percent of truck owners use their truck for hauling—putting something in the bed, once a year or less.
Having done rock crawling in Moab, UT with groups that included Jeeps with medium mods, light mods, and stock... as well as stock Toyota TJ's and Ford Bronco's, I'm going to have to agree with @AudubonB that you aren't really doing rock crawling in the stock rig. I know you said, "within the limits of their vehicle", but on the rock crawling trails with stock vehicles that basically means "taking the bypasses"... all you are really doing so doing some hill climbs on narrow/unpaved trails of relatively flat rock.You might not-and frankly neither would I given the cost of a new rig. But plenty of pickup owners do, within the limits of their vehicle. Many more take them on rough, rocky, steep hills. And others do go mudding with them. All on top of hauling trailers on rough roads into places you'd never expect to see one. Not all truck owners live in the suburbs and just commute with them. I expect Cybertruck will do well actually being used as a truck. Lots of people spend a pile of money on Raptors for their off road capabilities.
I have to believe that there is a chasm between "one time" and "less". So many truck owners simply never tow. I great follow-up question would be "Do you have something to tow NOW" (i.e. boat, jet ski, trailer of any kind, etc.). If they don't then the towing opportunities are simply a lot less. I see lots of trucks parked in driveways here in my area...but a MUCH smaller percentage seem to have a trailer, boat, etc.Best stats I'm aware of are:
75 percent of truck owners use their truck for towing one time a year or less Nearly 70 percent of truck owners go off-road one time a year or less. And a full 35 percent of truck owners use their truck for hauling—putting something in the bed, once a year or less.
Looks like fun, but not off-road, just gravel roads. Pretty mild. Would be nice to see how it does on some big hillclimbs over some large rocks, rock crawling or deep mudding. I suspect awesome given the level of control offered with electric motors and adjustable ride height.
I suspect part of the problem is how much of that HP/torque is available at 0 MPH. Kevin from OutOfSpec mentioned that he can pretty much overheat the motors/inverters trying to get his R1T to move in those situations, without actually moving.To this day I don't understand why it is still a problem, it simply doesn't apply enough torque to the wheels with traction, and I doubt it's a power and torque limitation since they have 200 hp and over 200 ft lb on each wheel
I'd love to see the stats on new truck buyers who say they intend to do towing, hauling, and off-roading. I bet it's close to 100%.
That makes a ton of sense, when a motor is spinning, you are cycling the current between all 3 phases, but when stopped you keep an the same phase(s) and IGBT's for a long while, meaning the localized heat load can be many times the usual even when compared at full torque and low speed vs zero speedI suspect part of the problem is how much of that HP/torque is available at 0 MPH. Kevin from OutOfSpec mentioned that he can pretty much overheat the motors/inverters trying to get his R1T to move in those situations, without actually moving.
Many, and perhaps most, yes. Nearly al-no. I've lived in rural areas all my life, where pickups are as common as Teslas in California. Plenty actually do use trucks as trucks.
Doesn't always happen.Oh sure, same as the folks who buy all the exercise equipment that turns into coatracks
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