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The most recent information is from their Q2 release: https://downloads.rivian.com/2md5qh...cf80955/Rivian-Q2-2022-Shareholder-Letter.pdf
(They don't break out R1T from R1S.)
They will likely update that figure on November 9th.
rhumbliner
Member
Rivian Mobile came to my home yesterday to perform the recall fix on my R1T. Took maybe 15 minutes.
I got my R1S VIN. Expecting the vehicle sometime in December.
BTW, it is still early days for Rivian in all sorts of ways. A story from the Rivian Forums:
"When I arrived in Vegas, had another fairly major issue after using an EA 350 kw charger. It charged up to 210 kw, but then stopped at 75%. Tried to restart it 4-5 times and it charged for a minute then stopped again. Finally gave up and left, only to discover the truck had no power. Looked down and I had notifications of a system fault and battery fault. Was paranoid about what to do. It drastically reduced power output. I called Rivian and they instructed me to simply shut down the vehicle for 30 minutes (let it rest) and start it up again. I went to check in and just the 10 minute stop to check in did the trick. Came out and the truck was back to normal. Was a bit unnerving though. Second time I've had issues using 350 kw EA chargers. Others have reported similar issues. Appears it heats the battery up too much too fast and the truck doesn't like it. Might be better off sticking to the 150 kw chargers until they figure this out."
BTW, it is still early days for Rivian in all sorts of ways. A story from the Rivian Forums:
"When I arrived in Vegas, had another fairly major issue after using an EA 350 kw charger. It charged up to 210 kw, but then stopped at 75%. Tried to restart it 4-5 times and it charged for a minute then stopped again. Finally gave up and left, only to discover the truck had no power. Looked down and I had notifications of a system fault and battery fault. Was paranoid about what to do. It drastically reduced power output. I called Rivian and they instructed me to simply shut down the vehicle for 30 minutes (let it rest) and start it up again. I went to check in and just the 10 minute stop to check in did the trick. Came out and the truck was back to normal. Was a bit unnerving though. Second time I've had issues using 350 kw EA chargers. Others have reported similar issues. Appears it heats the battery up too much too fast and the truck doesn't like it. Might be better off sticking to the 150 kw chargers until they figure this out."
Just to clarify, the EA charger doesn't control the charge rate, the vehicle does by telling the charger how much current (power) to provide. So the 'they' in "until they figure this out" is Rivian with possibility some support from EA.
EA should only be providing what the car requests, so the overheating is a vehicle software issue. Even if were an issue in the charger communication specification, the vehicle should see the current disparity and either reduce the requested charge rate or fault and end the charging session.
Same with battery heating. Battery gets too warm, cut back on the requested power.
Yes indeed. Rivian needs to tweak their charging software before they wreck too many battery packs due to overheating. In the meantime, all owners can do is to avoid 250 kW charging stations.
JRP3
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Camp kitchen off the menu and tent may be also...
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/...tchen-as-well-as-the-tent-package-201473.html
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/...tchen-as-well-as-the-tent-package-201473.html
Rivian maybe discovering that they can’t do everything while trying to ramp production? If so, they are starting to grow up.
While the camp kitchen was cool, it was indeed something that a third party should do. I mean, you have warranty repairs and sourcing to deal with on something that doesn’t move the needle. Meanwhile they are struggling on something that does move the needle.
Of note, Rivian raised the price of their wall charger to $800. It is built like the first generation Tesla one was … ie it needs cost optimization. Meanwhile Tesla just started selling a J1772 wall charger for $550 that has a few extra features. It’s their third generation wall charger.
I could care less about the camp kitchen. Most people that want that probably already have a camp trailer.
A manual tonneau cover will do just fine for me. Maybe they can offer the powered option with next years model.
If they don’t start building trucks at a reasonable pace, Ford and GMC are going to beat them to the punch and people will lose interest in waiting for years on a reservation from a start up.
Get the trucks out the door RJ. That is the only thing that matters right now.
A manual tonneau cover will do just fine for me. Maybe they can offer the powered option with next years model.
If they don’t start building trucks at a reasonable pace, Ford and GMC are going to beat them to the punch and people will lose interest in waiting for years on a reservation from a start up.
Get the trucks out the door RJ. That is the only thing that matters right now.
Barklikeadog
Active Member
sounds like a part designed by a tech person not a truck person
Honestly, it just looked like bad mechanical engineering. Sandy had some thoughts on it during a tear down. My motorized pool cover has a better mechanism than what that tonneau cover has.
Incidentally, I got my Rivian wall charger (I was an early reservation holder so only paid $500 for it), and even it has some very odd design choices. It has a light bar around the top (three sides). In every consumer product I’ve seen, you’d light that up with a plastic light pipe and one or a couple of LEDs. Rivian chose to use no less than 25 individual LEDs!
Edit, now that I look at the circuit board more closely, I see that it is manufactured by the Taiwanese company Liteon. Makes sense that Rivian would outsource their wall charger.
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Barklikeadog
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Any non truck owner would be shocked at the intensity of tonneau cover discussions on truck forums. Most of the competing cover makers are owned by one parent company and they share their tech innovations. Buyers want: waterproof(very few are truly waterproof, the ones that are have shells that make them inconvenient to use) easy to use, durable.
I watch the angled cybertruck cover retract and think... That's nice, all the water and snow will run off into the bed, onto my stuff.
voyager
Active Member
Rivian branching out. “So for us to be part of that sort of mosaic of different mobility solutions,
we have a whole host of products, a number of which are pretty far from what you see here.”
techcrunch.com
we have a whole host of products, a number of which are pretty far from what you see here.”
Rivian's RJ Scaringe on the future of micromobility, AVs and the supply chain | TechCrunch
Rivian founder RJ Scaringe said onstage at Disrupt that about half of its nearly 15,000 employees are focused on what's next.
techcrunch.com
You have got to be kidding me: “Of Rivian’s nearly 15,000 employees, about half are focused on future products, Scaringe said”Rivian branching out. “So for us to be part of that sort of mosaic of different mobility solutions,
we have a whole host of products, a number of which are pretty far from what you see here.”
Rivian's RJ Scaringe on the future of micromobility, AVs and the supply chain | TechCrunch
Rivian founder RJ Scaringe said onstage at Disrupt that about half of its nearly 15,000 employees are focused on what's next.
Why? They have a golden goose in front of them and they aren’t pursuing it? Do they think their vehicles aren’t going to be competitive long term?
