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90 batteries are already overstretched as it is, so no uncorking is going to happen for those cars I think.
I don't know, but 90 kWh batteries are the most taxed it appears, they degrade the fastest and have some internal temperature imbalances it seems. also they are no longer made, but 75 batteries underwent a revision sometime this summer (I think?) and newer batteries are not as overtaxed anymore it seems.How could the 75 battery not be overtaxed compared to the 90 ?
I've said this across every forum about this, but the 85D was uncorked in April 2015 with a software update adding sport mode. It reduced the 0-60 from 5.2 to 4.2. About a month later, Tesla sent out another update removing sport mode making the 4.2s standard. The 90kwh battery is essentially the same pack as the 85 but with some cell chemistry differences. The 100D seems the same, but it has more cells per module which means more usable amps. Bottom line is 85D/90D vehicles have already been pushed to their limitsI don't know, but 90 kWh batteries are the most taxed it appears, they degrade the fastest and have some internal temperature imbalances it seems. also they are no longer made, but 75 batteries underwent a revision sometime this summer (I think?) and newer batteries are not as overtaxed anymore it seems.
You are not exactly correct.I've said this across every forum about this, but the 85D was uncorked in April 2015 with a software update adding sport mode. It reduced the 0-60 from 5.2 to 4.2. About a month later, Tesla sent out another update removing sport mode making the 4.2s standard. The 90kwh battery is essentially the same pack as the 85 but with some cell chemistry differences. The 100D seems the same, but it has more cells per module which means more usable amps. Bottom line is 85D/90D vehicles have already been pushed to their limits
You are not exactly correct.
First, 85D could be further uncorked with current approach, but it would blow the fuse unless you already have a bigger one (in new packs the fuse is a soft-fuse so you can adjust the tripping point).
The chemistry and layout changes in 90 kWh packs made them super unstable, with terrible degradation. See here for some data: Tesla's 85 kWh rating needs an asterisk (up to 81 kWh, with up to ~77 kWh usable)
For whatever reason 100 packs are almost as stable as 85 packs from before.
Ok found ... perf_config =1
So uncorked!
I have a 100D MS with Vin 197xxx. Delivery was in late May.
I had asked my service advisor a month ago (via email) if my car could be uncorked and I was told no.
Today I checked the info on Teslafi and it shows [perf_config] => P1 never looked at that data before... Wish I had to see if it changed
So do you all think they did uncork my 100D?
P1 = uncorked so yes.
When I say the 85D has reached its limits I say so in Tesla's eyes due to the battery instability but also (mainly) just to differentiate the lineup. The motors are the same throughout the non performance D lineup so it's not that which is limited. I think in terms of marketing and Tesla as a brand the 90D is not going to get uncorked. One thing to remember is the 90D is really an 85D. It has the same number of cells per module and even weighs the same apparently. The difference, however, lies in the general chemistry of the cells with the anode being made of something different. From what I heard, this change in chemistry was what led to the instability. Looking at the 100D battery we can see more cells per module and a different cooling configuration which I belive contributes to the significant boost in high speed acceleration among 100D models. My point is, if we consider the 90D to have already been uncorked (85D already got uncorked in 2015), then I don't think it's likely Tesla will do a second round of uncorking.You are not exactly correct.
First, 85D could be further uncorked with current approach, but it would blow the fuse unless you already have a bigger one (in new packs the fuse is a soft-fuse so you can adjust the tripping point).
The chemistry and layout changes in 90 kWh packs made them super unstable, with terrible degradation. See here for some data: Tesla's 85 kWh rating needs an asterisk (up to 81 kWh, with up to ~77 kWh usable)
For whatever reason 100 packs are almost as stable as 85 packs from before.
As I have said, BMS ISENSORPROTOCOL NUMBER is the only way to tell if you are uncorkedOn 100D, Perf_Config being P1 does not automatically mean uncorked as Perf_Config is one of two indicators determining if the car can be uncorked. It is possible to have P1 on a corked 100D car.
What’s the other parameter?
As I have said, BMS ISENSORPROTOCOL NUMBER is the only way to tell if you are uncorked
So, if my number is currently 5 and Tesla states my car can be uncorked because it's greater than 3, what should the number be after uncorking? 3?
Guys I respectfully disagree with your assertions that the 90D cannot be uncorked.
@verygreen you assert it's because the 90KWh packs are less stable. But there's the P90D which hits 100KW higher power levels using the same battery. Even the P85D could hit 0-60 in 3 seconds.
I agree that 90Ds likely could be uncorked, but I don't think Tesla would allow it.My point is, if we consider the 90D to have already been uncorked (85D already got uncorked in 2015), then I don't think it's likely Tesla will do a second round of uncorking.
I picked up a 100D X today and was trying to make sure it was uncorked. I thought it required a Service Center visit but have not been following all this closely because I was thinking of a new 100D in the spring. This loaner came available.As a follow-up, they uncorked my X100D over the air, the config change+reboot took all of 5 minutes and then a firmware update that actually took 2 tries since first one failed.
We have uncorked S 100 quarter mile runlogs but not corked and not any X 100 runlogs in the performance metrics. Any chance you kept one from your roadster? I have one that I haven't posted yet....I didn't see anyone post their 1/4 mile times with the 100D 'uncorked'...Anyone have any real world numbers? I pulled 12.7 quarter mile in my old school 2010 Tesla Roadster Sport at the drag strip earlier this year...
nah, process is pretty much identical between 75D and 100D. I guess they did not expect to get a wave of customer visits overloading SCs clamoring for uncorks (hoping to deliver uncorking while doing other scheduled work as a nice gift?) so for 100Ds they decided to ease the load on the service centers.service tech manager came out to tell me there is no uncorking config type option on the 100s like the 75s that do require visiting the service centers