I haven't seen anything so I assume not but thought I'd ask. DOes anyone know whether Tesla is going to start shipping US cars with a CCS adapter, or otherwise provide CCS support? I know you can buy a $750 knockoff CCS adapter that may or may not work but I'm surprised Tesla hasn't started supporting this officially since CCS is the emerging standard.
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Any US CCS updates?
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Do I get to be the first to say "two weeks"? Sweet.
Elon preparing relocate people on Mars and he doesn't have time on a small issues like Customer Service or CCS.
No, certainly not. That's been an ongoing joke for a long time, where Musk has said some things were coming in "two weeks" that just never happened.
And there are already several threads that have been going for dozens of pages talking about potential CCS adapters, so if there were any news, it would have been posted there immediately. There's nothing known yet of any official adapter.
TomServo
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Lectron rebadges the SETEC adapter, you can find lots of experiences in this thread:
Setec CCS to Tesla Adapter
Because of multiple threads in multiple sub-forums concerning this adapter, starting this one as a single point of knowledge. Background - Purchased the Setec CCS1 adapter and received today. Tried on a BTCPower station operated by Blink. Got both communications errors and failed isolation...
teslamotorsclub.com
Tesla has been including CCS hardware in cars since some point in 2020. They are probably waiting a year or so pass before they release an adapter that only supports those newer cars.
Thanks. Good to know.Lectron rebadges the SETEC adapter, you can find lots of experiences in this thread:
Setec CCS to Tesla Adapter
Because of multiple threads in multiple sub-forums concerning this adapter, starting this one as a single point of knowledge. Background - Purchased the Setec CCS1 adapter and received today. Tried on a BTCPower station operated by Blink. Got both communications errors and failed isolation...
Tesla has been including CCS hardware in cars since some point in 2020. They are probably waiting a year or so pass before they release an adapter that only supports those newer cars.
I live in BC and just put a deposit down on a Tesla Model Y due for delivery in April. I've had a Chevy Bolt for the last 3.5 years but it was just totalled. I'm really starting to second guess my choice of going Tesla. The Supercharger network in BC is abismal, there isn't even one in Victoria for crying out loud. The BC Hydro level 3 stations are everywhere. I can't believe there isn't an affordable adapter already for CCS. This is mind boggling.
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angus[Y]oung
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@geesahn FYI there is an urban supercharger in Victoria: Find Us | Tesla
But yes, the lower mainland for sure is a bit sparse considering the number of Teslas in the GVA. Bear in mind that between now and Q2 next year (dates can and do slip), we should see new Superchargers in: Richmond, Delta, North Surrey, South Surrey. I might be forgetting one or two? EDIT: I forgot Burnaby, West Vancouver, and Chilliwack. Here's a great list of those plus others in BC and AB: Western Canada Superchargers
willow_hiller
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Looks like Tesla posted an update on the Korean CCS adapter. Same standard as the US, so hopefully it's just a matter of time before it comes here:
Tesla's CCS adapter is finally coming
Tesla owners outside of Europe should finally be able to use public CCS fast-charging stations, as the automaker’s CCS to...
electrek.co
Would this CCS adapter allow non supercharger capable Model S/X then charge on other DC networks?
willow_hiller
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According to the Reddit source, 3/Y only for now:
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- It cannot be used in Model S and Model X, and when compatibility analysis with domestic charging infrastructure is completed, information on the release will be provided at a later date.
Because Tesla's proprietary standard shares the AC and DC pins by first negotiating and using some sort of mux that goes either to the OBC or directly to the battery, while CCS uses separate physical pins for each function?
That's actually the case.
J1772 has 3 large pins (2 for AC charging, and 1 for ground) and 2 smaller pins for signaling (proximity pilot & control pilot). The CCS1 connector adds 2 large pins underneath for DC fast charging. The Tesla connector has 3 pins near the bottom for ground, proximity pilot, and control pilot, and 2 large pins near the top that are shared for both AC and DC fast charging, with a multiplexer inside the vehicle.
The different North American EV charging connector types
Learn about the differences between the various EV charging connector types in North America so you know which type you need for your electric vehicle.
evcharging.enelx.com
The difference between CCS1 and Tesla is literally that the very large bottom 2 pins and the top 2 pins in CCS1, are rolled into just 2 pins, and this can be done because J1772/CCS1 never uses both its bottom 2 and top 2 pins at the same time.
The J3068 (aka Mennekes/Type 2) connector has 7 pins instead of J1772's 5 (and the CCS2 connector has 9 pins instead of 7). It has the proximity and control pilot pins at the very top, one neutral pin, and 4 AC charging pins instead of 2. The reason is that it's designed to allow 3Φ charging so instead of just using split phase or single phase (voltage between two pins), it uses 3 voltages 120 degrees out of phase referenced to a single neutral, on suitably equipped EVSEs and vehicles.
And it should be noted that EU/Australasia S/X Gen 1 use a similar Custom Type 2 adapter.
It's basically the Type 2 plug with an additional Key channel.
Gen2 superchargers in those countries have two plugs - one type 2 with the additional Key for the S/X and a second CCS2.
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