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Well it looks like they changed the verbiage on the chademo adapter website again. Now reads:
"Note: CHAdeMO is not compatible with Model 3."
I really wish they would make this a priority for model 3 owners.
"Note: CHAdeMO is not compatible with Model 3."
I really wish they would make this a priority for model 3 owners.
HyperionMark
Member
It used to read "The Model S/X CHAdeMO Adapter is not currently supported by Model 3". So just a subtlety.
I don't see the adapter listed with the model 3 accesories or in the charging section of model 3 adapters. They appear to still only be listed under the model s and model x headings.
I don't see the adapter listed with the model 3 accesories or in the charging section of model 3 adapters. They appear to still only be listed under the model s and model x headings.
HyperionMark
Member
Wow thats interesting news. Almost as if they are queuing things up in the appropriate locations on the website for a future release.
hill
high fiber member
The CHAdeMO adapter is quite the device. Many of the SC locations don't even understand it. For instance, it has flashable hardware, & it needed to be upgraded from the earliest versions because some of the CHAdeMO Chargers weren't recognizing compatibility. We had to go to 3 different SC's to finally find someone that knew what was going on. With that in mind, it wouldn't be too surprising to find that an update to the adapter might be more likely then to the car. Just a thought.
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Tested this out again yesterday after receiving 2019.20.2.1 update. Still no luck.
Although I noticed the charging amps read 5 amps now which is what it typically reads when supercharging. Previous attempts at chademo charging last year showed "48 amps" in the charging screen when receiving the chademo error message.
Not sure what this means, just an observation.
Although I noticed the charging amps read 5 amps now which is what it typically reads when supercharging. Previous attempts at chademo charging last year showed "48 amps" in the charging screen when receiving the chademo error message.
Not sure what this means, just an observation.
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EfficientWatts
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Well Japan deliveries are in less than 2 months, so they have to be getting ready for that. Could be some of the updated code is in place?
This is assuming of course Tesla is sticking with the current adapter strategy for Japan.
theredviper
Member
Japan will definitely be a good indicator. I don't think there's any reason to believe they have modified the charging port or we'd know right? Via the product page for Japanese orders at least?
mtndrew1
Active Member
There’s certainly a possibility that the opposite side of the car gets a CHAdeMO inlet to complement the AC charging on the driver side. We didn’t really know about native CCS until the last minute.
EfficientWatts
Member
The only issue with that is that would mean running two sets of DC HV cables, and that's not something I see Tesla doing.
The only way that could work is if chademo is the only DC connector, and they have a Tesla -> chademo adapter to allow usage of the supercharger network, but I don't think such an adapter would work and would be of really limited scope.
edit: we do have a little precedent with China and the dual connectors/adapters, but China is a bigger market so I don't know if Tesla would want to do something similar with Japan.
During the recent shareholder meeting, Elon stated that Tesla would enable charging on "high speed charging networks" with adapters (56 minute mark on the video to be exact). So I think it's more likely that a chademo or ccs adapter gets adopted rather than adding a charge port.
mtndrew1
Active Member
Other than my own intuition I took that to mean adapters in NA and for legacy EU cars without a CCS port.
China and EU set a bit of precedent for Tesla natively adopting the local charging standards without adapters. I expect the S/X refresh to get new charge ports with CCS and GB/T connections (without the stupid extra door). I’m under the impression that CHAdeMO is a very big deal in Japan and could warrant a dedicated inlet.
Bring up plugshare.com, zoom in on Japan, and compare CHAdeMO vs CCS vs Supercharger availability.
I guess if Tesla was willing to add a ccs charging cables to superchargers in EU, they could do the same in Japan with a chademo cable.
SageBrush
REJECT Fascism
It is true that CHAdeMO is widespread in Japan but do not confuse that network with the Tesla Supercharger network in terms of functionality. CHAdeMO starts at 6 kW and typically maxes out at 50 kW.
60 Amp L2 would match up with 15 kW CHAdeMO
60 Amp L2 would match up with 15 kW CHAdeMO
EfficientWatts
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On the Japanese support site you have a link to something specifically for the model3 (scroll to bottom). Some sort of install guide, coupon, or something. Either way it shows charging options you have for the car, and they show Chademo on there; it seems to be the existing adapter
https://www.tesla.com/sites/default...WallConnector_Installation_Coupon_M3_1906.pdf
Unfortunately I cannot select the text to allow easy translation; had to use google translate on the phone via the camera feature.
There doesn't appear to be any charge rate increase (they seem to copy/paste the charge rate from the S/X support page in terms of kilometers).
Of course this could be a placeholder, but being two months out I don't think this is the case.
Edit: Google translate of the chademo text on the support page
On the Japanese support site you have a link to something specifically for the model3 (scroll to bottom). Some sort of install guide, coupon, or something. Either way it shows charging options you have for the car, and they show Chademo on there; it seems to be the existing adapter
https://www.tesla.com/sites/default...WallConnector_Installation_Coupon_M3_1906.pdf
Unfortunately I cannot select the text to allow easy translation; had to use google translate on the phone via the camera feature.
There doesn't appear to be any charge rate increase (they seem to copy/paste the charge rate from the S/X support page in terms of kilometers).
Of course this could be a placeholder, but being two months out I don't think this is the case.
Edit: Google translate of the chademo text on the support page
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