It's not revenue, it's a liability like a loan and accounted for on the balance sheet as such. If the company goes bankrupt, people who paid deposits line up like other creditors in hopes of getting some portion back.
-
Want to remove ads? Register an account and login to see fewer ads, and become a Supporting Member to remove almost all ads.
Articles re Tesla—Fact or Fiction?
- Thread starter Robert.Boston
- Start date
It's not revenue, it's a liability like a loan and accounted for on the balance sheet as such. If the company goes bankrupt, people who paid deposits line up like other creditors in hopes of getting some portion back.
roblab
Active Member
There was also, circulating at that time, the direct comment that Musk would pay back every penny. He personally guaranteed the "loans". Of course, if you didn't believe he could or would, it would make that promise nil.
Gerardf
Active Member
He did state that, even in an interview on camera. However that was referring to the guaranteed buyback / resale price after three years lease.
Elon Musk Puts His Own Bank Account on the Line for Tesla - Corporate Intelligence - WSJ
chickensevil
Active Member
If you Want a good laugh take a read of this. It's so bad it hurts... I wouldn't trust this guy with my money...
Stanphyl Capital December 2015 Letter - Short Tesla Motors
this is the fund ran by Logical Thought aka Mark Spiegel.
Stanphyl Capital December 2015 Letter - Short Tesla Motors
this is the fund ran by Logical Thought aka Mark Spiegel.
MarketWatch Insists "Sales Disappoint"
J.P. Morgan analysts expressed concerns today about how the cautious production rate of the Model X is slowing deliveries in the near term. Jeremy Owens, the San Francisco Bureau Chief of MarketWatch, apparently felt it appropriate for his headline about the analysts' note to include the term "sales disappointment".
Link to Article
I wrote to him that sales disappointment implies lack of demand in the minds of many readers, which is not the case for a car with a long backlog of orders. Even though neither the analysts nor Tesla use the word sales, Owens feels he is justified in placing the word in the headline since Tesla does not count a car as sold until it is delivered to a consumer. He wrote to me that readers who do not understand, "are mistaken and need to improve their reading comprehension."
The Reporter's Email Address: [email protected]
J.P. Morgan analysts expressed concerns today about how the cautious production rate of the Model X is slowing deliveries in the near term. Jeremy Owens, the San Francisco Bureau Chief of MarketWatch, apparently felt it appropriate for his headline about the analysts' note to include the term "sales disappointment".
Link to Article
I wrote to him that sales disappointment implies lack of demand in the minds of many readers, which is not the case for a car with a long backlog of orders. Even though neither the analysts nor Tesla use the word sales, Owens feels he is justified in placing the word in the headline since Tesla does not count a car as sold until it is delivered to a consumer. He wrote to me that readers who do not understand, "are mistaken and need to improve their reading comprehension."
The Reporter's Email Address: [email protected]
Last edited:
Investors Business Daily gave TSLA an undeserved haircut by misquoting James Albertine's (Stifel) price target. Investors Business Daily quoted $204.99 as Albertine's target, instead of the $325 that Albertine announced 6 days ago. The rest of the article was pretty much a hit piece, too. I'm wondering if these reporters are just this incompetent, if they're trying to pull down TSLA so that some shorts can exit richer prior to the 4Q ER, or if they know someone ready to buy into TSLA soon. Sheesh.
The article: Tesla Motors Earnings Scheduled: Black Ice Or Autopilot? | Stock News Stock Market Analysis - IBD
The article: Tesla Motors Earnings Scheduled: Black Ice Or Autopilot? | Stock News Stock Market Analysis - IBD
Johan
Ex got M3 in the divorce, waiting for EU Model Y!
Without any prior knowledge it would be prudent to dismiss a quoted price target of $204.99 from a professional analyst as bogus reporting, as none of them will ever give a price target with two decimals...
Thomson Reuters is today featuring a WSJ video version of yesterday's Jeremy Owen article in MarketWatch that I discussed in post #626. Again they headline that "sales" of the Model X have been disappointing in the minds of J.P. Morgan analysts. Those analysts never used the term "sales", just as Tesla does not. The analysts alluded to slow delivery due to production problems. No mention is made in the MarketWatch article or WSJ video about the huge backlog of Model X orders. But a headline about disappointing "sales" grabs eyeballs and clicks. The headline would probably leave many investors incorrectly believing there is a demand problem. I found both the original article and the video in the newsfeed for Tesla within my stock brokerage account.
Last edited:
stealthology
Member
Not a great article out from GCR:
Tesla Model 3 March 'Debut' May Not Be A Car, But...Pictures?
Thoughts?
Tesla Model 3 March 'Debut' May Not Be A Car, But...Pictures?
Thoughts?
Hilarious. "without, hopefully," he said, "creating some sort of silly news headline, which does happen." Cited in the article itself. And then they twist the words to produce sensationalist BS headline.
sundaymorning
Active Member
This was discussed in the Model 3 thread. The reporter asked Elon when they will show pictures of the tailight. So Elon responded "in March." Then the Fudsters chummed in "OMG, Tesla is only showing pictures." Well folks, Tesla always shows us a picture before the actual reveal. Think back to the "D" and "X" tweets. The actual prototype of Model S was revealed in 2009 while the X prototype was in 2012. Of course they will have a moving prototype of 3 to show! Count on it.
One analyst even rated TSLA a sell because of signs of weak demand, saying that orders for the X aren't happening. What do they expect with deposits for over a year's sales already, and with no product in showrooms yet for potential customers to see/drive?
I see this week as a buying opportunity.
Chickenlittle
Banned
just to add no design studio pricing. Still going through reservations. If there was decreased demand would see attempt to sell
USA Today story initially said "$35,000 after incentives", but by the time I got to post this they'd added something about Elon's ordering tweet and corrected the amount. But since I've done most of the work to post the link anyway...
tinm
2020 Model S LR+ Owner
How about this specimen:
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2016-02-11/tesla-will-get-trampled-by-the-mass-market
Spectacularly clueless. The logic is dizzying. Be sure to be seated when reading, and hold on to something. Always consult a physician. Use only as directed.
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2016-02-11/tesla-will-get-trampled-by-the-mass-market
Spectacularly clueless. The logic is dizzying. Be sure to be seated when reading, and hold on to something. Always consult a physician. Use only as directed.
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
I doubled my position earlier this week. I am very happy I did.Great thread. Reviewing the growing stock Short numbers along with many negative articles does not seem coincidental. The market drop also creates a perfect storm for the shares to fall. I increased my position. Keep up the exposure of FUD.
Similar threads
