Australian Model 3 Waiting Room

[guilliam_246]

Aaah ok then, no idea where the news that Mulgrave was closed came from then.

Maybe they will split the Y and 3 at different centers or the one in Oakleigh simply doesn't exist

I think they might have gotten there wires crossed, they were closed till Friday last week for renovations. They have just opened up again in preporation for all the deliveries in August

 

[moa999]

Aaah ok then, no idea where the news that Mulgrave was closed came from then.

Not closed yet. But there is reportedly a For Lease sign, and it's believed Tesla has acquired the Oakleigh site, but still needs to fit it out.

 

[maxb]

Curious where this is specified? (For AU particularly)

Telsa's own page says
3D5 is 180kw @6k - 326nm
3D7 is 194kw @5.4k - 340nm


That's not necessarily a negligible difference.. especially if we're down from the rated 208.

Power ratings are a function of how much torque is produced at a given engine speed.
Without seeing the torque curves from a dyno, there's a possibility the D5 has more down low performance. But given the lower peak torque output, I'd be surprised.

Just found this on Whirlpool, I don’t know if it is valid or correct.

“My VIN is a 382XXX with the J engine. The J engine has always been the 3D6 P engine with 239kW of max power. There is another hairpin engine, the 3D7 B engine with 208kW of max power, but this one has only been seen on LR models, never on the SR+.”

 

[RobM3MY]

My Melbourne delivery M3LR date brought forward in past 24 hours by about 1 week to now be August 17 - August 31. (Ordered 2 March)

Even for an estimated date it is at heading in the right direction.

 

[zarbs]

Morning Crystal currently being shepherded to dock by tugs.

 

[maxb]

Think you mean 6-10AM Arrival Tomorrow

RR

MORNING CLARA

VEHICLES CARRIER

199.9

Wilhelmsen Ships Service (Brisbane)

27-07-22 06:00

27-07-22 10:00

Drift Point Cartwright

Fisherman Island No 1

SCHD

Shanghai

Port Kembla

2263

DEP

MORNING CLARA

VEHICLES CARRIER

199.9

Wilhelmsen Ships Service (Brisbane)

28-07-22 08:00

28-07-22 12:00

Fisherman Island No 1

SEA

PLAN

Shanghai

Port Kembla

2263

To me it doesn’t look like it going anywhere.

 

[resolve03]

To me it doesn’t look like it going anywhere.

Well that's because it's not meant to till tomorrow

 

[furiouss]

Yes, all from Tessories. A few items not shown in the photo, such as the boot hook, camping mattress, jack pads.

Thanks - I've been wondering about the quality of the 3rd party products. The oem boot liner is $200+ alone vs $100 for the 3 peice set. But they look fairly good quality in your pic.

 

[mycle]

My Melbourne delivery M3LR date brought forward in past 24 hours by about 1 week to now be August 17 - August 31. (Ordered 2 March)

Even for an estimated date it is at heading in the right direction.

And my Sydney M3LR ordered 15/1 still sitting at Aug23-Sep1. Not sure what system they're using for allocations but is sure as hell isn't first come first served

 

[Braz]

The car can't charge any faster on 2 phase than it can on 1. With a single phase it can do up to 32A, with more than a single phase each phase can only do 16A. This is a limitation of the way the charging circuitry in the car can operate.

The Tesla manual that comes with the wall charger says it will charge faster wired in to two phases instead of one. The same as the manual says it'll have higher kW at 3 phase. The electrician went over the manual and said the same thing?

 

[javataco]

And my Sydney M3LR ordered 15/1 still sitting at Aug23-Sep1. Not sure what system they're using for allocations but is sure as hell isn't first come first served

Same here. Order date 2/2 with similar delivery dates.

 

[Peersee]

I guess it is something to do with doubling of voltage while drawing 16 Amp from three phase?

 

[Braz]

Found the manual page. 32 amp single phase 7kw, 32 amp 2 phase 14.7kw. See if I can attach the photo?

 

[FlyingKiwi]

All RWD and LR are 208, the LR has the additional front motor. The P is 239 from memory.

So the unicorn and earlier SR+ had the Perf rear motor?

 

[Blaq]

So the unicorn and earlier SR+ had the Perf rear motor?

Yep, they are pretty rapid for a single motor EV.

 

[cafz]

The Tesla manual that comes with the wall charger says it will charge faster wired in to two phases instead of one. The same as the manual says it'll have higher kW at 3 phase. The electrician went over the manual and said the same thing?

It's not a limitation of the wall connector, it's a limitation of the charger circuitry in the car.

The HPWC can supply up to 32A per phase on 3 phases (22kW), but the Model 3 and Y can't go that high (some Model S and X can). The Model 3 and Y can go up to 32A single phase or 16A per phase on multiple phases.

So with 2 phases you'll be able to do 16A on each phase, which is the same charge rate as 32A on single phase - although your 2-phase option will get less voltage drop and resistive losses in the wiring and it's just good practice to have big loads spread more evenly across phases.

 

[FlyingKiwi]

It's not a limitation of the wall connector, it's a limitation of the charger circuitry in the car.

The HPWC can supply up to 32A per phase on 3 phases (22kW), but the Model 3 and Y can't go that high (some Model S and X can). The Model 3 and Y can go up to 32A single phase or 16A per phase on multiple phases.

So with 2 phases you'll be able to do 16A on each phase, which is the same charge rate as 32A on single phase - although your 2-phase option will get less voltage drop and resistive losses in the wiring and it's just good practice to have big loads spread more evenly across phases.

I wonder if 32A single phase is actually 2 of the 3 charger modules paralleled up off a single phase. And where it happens.. Is it carried as a single 32A phase to the car and the cars charger parallels it up internally. Seems most likely, otherwise a single charger module can support 32A, so we should be able to hit 22kW on 3 phase.

 

[ChrisW67]

The UMC on a standard 10 Amp socket will deliver 1.8kW, or on a 15 Amp socket 2.6 kW.
On three phases it can deliver 7 kW.
On a single phase the Tesla Wall Connector can deliver 7.4kW (230V at 32A)

All of these are below the maximum rate the Model 3 AC charger can handle: 11kW
On 3-phase the Tesla Wall Connector, at 16A/phase, will deliver 11 kW and max out the Model 3 AC charger capacity.

https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/pdfs/charging_docs/gen_2_umc/Gen2_Mobile_Connector_en_AU.pdf

Wall Connector

The Tesla Wall Connector is the most efficient way to charge a Tesla at home — just plug in your vehicle overnight and wake up fully charged.

www.tesla.com

 

[Braz]

It's not a limitation of the wall connector, it's a limitation of the charger circuitry in the car.

The HPWC can supply up to 32A per phase on 3 phases (22kW), but the Model 3 and Y can't go that high (some Model S and X can). The Model 3 and Y can go up to 32A single phase or 16A per phase on multiple phases.

So with 2 phases you'll be able to do 16A on each phase, which is the same charge rate as 32A on single phase - although your 2-phase option will get less voltage drop and resistive losses in the wiring and it's just good practice to have big loads spread more evenly across phases.

Tesla must be wrong then mate and you must be right

 

[FlyingKiwi]

The UMC on a standard 10 Amp socket will deliver 1.8kW, or on a 15 Amp socket 2.6 kW.
On three phases it can deliver 7 kW.
On a single phase the Tesla Wall Connector can deliver 7.4kW (230V at 32A)

All of these are below the maximum rate the Model 3 AC charger can handle: 11kW
On 3-phase the Tesla Wall Connector, at 16A/phase, will deliver 11 kW and max out the Model 3 AC charger capacity.

https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/pdfs/charging_docs/gen_2_umc/Gen2_Mobile_Connector_en_AU.pdf

Wall Connector

The Tesla Wall Connector is the most efficient way to charge a Tesla at home — just plug in your vehicle overnight and wake up fully charged.

www.tesla.com

The current UMC is strictly single phase, the v1 umc was three phase capable.
Also the current UMC will do 32A single phase with the tesla 32A blue adapter in the UK.