Autonomous Car Progress

[diplomat33]

One problem with using MMLLMs for autonomous driving is that the entire model is too large to work on the computer in the car. So Ghost is proposing a hybrid approach where a smaller specially trained models would be in the car for driving and the MMLLM would be hosted in the cloud. The car could prompt the MMLLM in the cloud if it needs help.

Implementing MLLMs for driving requires a new architecture, as today’s MLLMs are significantly too large to run on embedded in-car processors. A hybrid architecture is required, where large-scale MLLMs running in the cloud collaborate with specially trained models running in-car, splitting the autonomy task and long-term vs. short-term planning between car and cloud.

Source: Harnessing the Power of Multi-Modal LLMs for Autonomy | Ghost

I feel like this approach risks having the same issues that Cruise had since the car needs an internet connection. So the car could stall if it needs help and can't connect to the cloud for assistance. This approach seems to just replace human remote assistance with AI remote assistance.

 

[spacecoin]

I predict LLMs will revolutionize Autonomous Vehicle fund-raising.

LLM2end. Dead end. Too large for onboard, too error prone for safety. All this AI hype… More buzzwords than actual datapoints or SMART goals.

 

[spacecoin]

He's got a point:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1722394587300540891

 

[kabin]

He's got a point:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1722394587300540891

That might be the best summary yet! I might add:

- sales tactics of a used car salesman.

 

[nativewolf]

Yep, I am shocked that so many people on this forums investment side of things don't get this. They think that somehow they are able to justify hundreds of billions in market cap because tesla is TRYING to make a robotaxi solution. Oh well. In this one instance you have to give wall street credit for not putting $ on robotaxi.

 

[diplomat33]

Exciting News from Motional: We're growing our autonomous delivery service with
@UberEats in Santa Monica and announcing our first national partner through Uber Eats:
@shakeshack! Read more: https://bit.ly/45UaTbv

https://twitter.com/x/status/1722252723176009851

 

[kabin]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1722252723176009851

They might be excited but the community needs to be on guard. It might be the slowest and worst latency autonomous system on the road.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1721898932429627463

 

[AlanSubie4Life]

They might be excited but the community needs to be on guard. It might be the slowest and worst latency autonomous system on the road.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1721898932429627463

Yeah, I am sure wide-area L4 vehicles are just around the corner.



I can’t believe they posted this.

 

[diplomat33]

Yeah, I am sure wide-area L4 vehicles are just around the corner.



I can’t believe they posted this.

Their PR seems to think it was a good thing which is why they posted it. They are touting it as an example of how good their AVs are.

 

[spacecoin]

Alex Kendall is interviewed here:

 

[KArnold]

The combined expertise of Luminar and Mobileye will deliver eyes-off, point-to-point, autonomous highway driving and eyes-on automated driving for other environments.

Polestar 4 Will Have Autonomous Driving Tech That Should Worry Tesla​

 

[Supcom]

Polestar 4 Will Have Autonomous Driving Tech That Should Worry Tesla​

Tesla FSD owners can tell you that It's a long drive between "Will Have" and "Has".

 

[rbt123]

Tesla FSD owners can tell you that It's a long drive between "Will Have" and "Has".

It's a Mobileeye product (Chauffeur) that Polestar purchased and is integrating at the factory. It likely has numerous limitations but whatever Polestar licensed already exists. Polestar is not launching an inhouse R&D project.

 

[Steerpike]

Polestar 4 looks very interesting, I was intending to trade in my Model Y for a Juniper Model Y in 2024, if it reaches the UK by then, but this looks like it could be a tempting alternative.

 

[Supcom]

It's a Mobileeye product (Chauffeur) that Polestar purchased and is integrating at the factory. It likely has numerous limitations but whatever Polestar licensed already exists. Polestar is not launching an inhouse R&D project.

This product is not currently available on any car in the US (anywhere?) for consumers to use. Therefore, significant risk exists between 'will have' and 'has'.

This is no different than any unreleased product. Those with FSDb know this all too well.

 

[stopcrazypp]

Polestar 4 Will Have Autonomous Driving Tech That Should Worry Tesla​

Tesla FSD owners can tell you that It's a long drive between "Will Have" and "Has".

It's a Mobileeye product (Chauffeur) that Polestar purchased and is integrating at the factory. It likely has numerous limitations but whatever Polestar licensed already exists. Polestar is not launching an inhouse R&D project.

Back in September 2020 Mercedes announced that the 2021 Mercedes S-class will have L3/L4 hardware.

2021 Mercedes-Benz S-Class is ready for Level 3 automated driving

Mercedes-Benz is looking to certify this tech next year.

www.cnet.com

They had a working demo system too that they showed to journalists:

3 years later the software still doesn't exist in any US consumer hands (even though they have done demos of what is presumably the final software to journalists in California).

So it doesn't matter that they have a working demo system, what matter is what ends up in the consumer hands.

 

[EVNow]

Polestar 4 Will Have Autonomous Driving Tech That Should Worry Tesla​

Clickbait.

That is why they use "Tesla" in headlines. It works.

ps : In my TSLA news feed on fidelity, I keep getting Blink news. They apparently include Tesla tag in their news !

 

[Dewg]

Feels slanted towards negativity on AVs, but still has some excellent points, and worth a watch:

 

[Doggydogworld]

"They (Waymo) have now expanded to almost the entire Phoenix metro area - over two hundred square miles"
I'm guessing Sam Abuelsamid has never been to Phoenix, or even looked at a map. Phoenix metro area is more like two thousand square miles.

 

[diplomat33]

"They (Waymo) have now expanded to almost the entire Phoenix metro area - over two hundred square miles"
I'm guessing Sam Abuelsamid has never been to Phoenix, or even looked at a map. Phoenix metro area is more like two thousand square miles.

It's even more than that. A quick Google search says it is 14,600 sq miles.