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stopcrazypp
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I don't think it is fair to say this will become a pattern yet. They said July release in March, Elon repeated that in late June, now mid-July they say 3-4 weeks. So this is the first official delay of the Beta.
According to someone who interviewed for a job with Tesla, Tesla hasn't even hired anyone to code the phone app portion of the self-parking and summoning features. So that stuff probably won't even get released with the Autopilot, it will come later.
I don't know what's fair. I just know I bought a $90k car with a $5k option because of this feature. And 6 months later I don't have that feature. That's all I know.
Yeah - same goes for me - as many others probably. Traded in my P85 with a huge loss to step up to the P85D merely because of the Autopilot features. If you compare how the latter was being presented at the D event and now hearing the issues they appear to have with lane marking contrast issues that does not feel good (and that is an understatement).
bonnie
I play a nice person on twitter.
I wouldn't assume that someone being interviewed, who didn't have to sign an NDA, actually knows any real information.
jeffro01
Active Member
Here is why it's taking so long...
http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/What-s-holding-back-Tesla-s-self-driving-car-6391158.php
Jeff
EDIT: Okay so sorry about missing the boat on this one, didn't want to delete my post since the article is "new" although it looks like what you guys already knew...
http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/What-s-holding-back-Tesla-s-self-driving-car-6391158.php
Jeff
EDIT: Okay so sorry about missing the boat on this one, didn't want to delete my post since the article is "new" although it looks like what you guys already knew...
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mikes_fsd
Banned
I am not denying that it sucks. I am looking for coherent proposals, now that we know (at least partially) what is holding it up ... the acid test.
stopcrazypp
Well-Known Member
For what it's worth, you aren't getting nothing for that $5k (there's still TACC, Auto High Beam, Forward Collision Warning, Automatic Emergency Braking, Blind spot warning).
Actually you got TACC and auto-highbeams. The safety features are included with a base car.
ETA: Nevermind, this was before the design studio upgrade. In that case he also got lighted door handles, keyless entry, power lift gate, etc.
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I read this the exact same way, and I feel a bit sad about it. Have been looking forward to that update since I got the car in February
really not uplifting if Tesla tries to sweep this under the rug. Especially if autopilot is a no go for a long time.
Hmm...that's amusing, someone who is not a Tesla employee claims to have inside information on what Tesla programmers are dong with the phone app based on being interviewed?
My guess is that, if there's any truth to this, it's that the candidate was being interviewed for development work on the iOS/phone app. Perhaps during the interview, they said the position would work on addition of some new features, including self-parking, etc., and the candidate took that to mean they didn't have anyone working on it. I'll be generous and say it was likely a misunderstanding.
If it's any consolation, if you traded early (closer to the announcement) then you likely got much more value for your P85 than today's sellers. I know that doesn't solve the core issue, but the upgrade might have cost you more in depreciation if you had waited.
yes, it was RegoApps. He posted about it on here. He's a honest guy and I have no reason to doubt him.
He posted in this thread, you are welcome to read it and draw your own conclusions.
Canuck
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Thanks for the video. That's the first time I've actually seen it in action. I don't know if I could comfortably drive a car without holding the wheel. What happens if you hold the wheel -- how much force does it exert? I assume it's easy to override but it might be nice if it takes a bit of force so you can keep your hands on the wheel while it drives you. Still that seems odd.
I wonder how this works on real street driving since there are few road lines like those in the video -- at least for any significant amount of time. I also assume it's useless in the snow but even after the snow, because of the salt, sand and ploughing, many of our road lines are barely visible and need painting yearly, at least on our interior highways where this would be nice to have. Often, we can't even see where the road lines are. If it's relying on road lines only, I can see major issues, at least for in Canada.
I'm surprised that the current laws allows this. Are there any other brands of vehicles on the road that currently do this?
Thanks for the compassion..:tongue:that might very well be true. Also, since the us$ gained quite against the € I paid a lower purchase price as prices have been raised quite a bit for us since my order. The main reason for stepping up was really autopilot / lane keeping and by no means did I anticipate having to wait that long from when I ordered last year. No regrets btw - I love my P85D,
It does add some color to the fact that when Elon says he's testing it personally, he means he is testing it on the 405.
To those wondering why they don't release it and have it simply say it can't work in some circumstances, well, unfortunately those circumstances happen to be Elon's commute, and he's not going to let that go.
To those wondering why they don't release it and have it simply say it can't work in some circumstances, well, unfortunately those circumstances happen to be Elon's commute, and he's not going to let that go.
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