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Charging Etiquette

Discussion in 'Australia & New Zealand' started by brewster, Jul 10, 2015.

  1. brewster

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    On a different angle to the usual charging etiquette, what about ....

    When it comes time for me to request a charge, (should I require one, and I'm pretty sure I will) from a fellow Tesla owner and it works out conveniently of course, do you think it would be a good idea to offer my sign-on and password as a courtesy, so they can track my location on that day?
    Of course I would expect that they do not fiddle with any of my car controls during that time. :wink:
    If the tables were reversed, I think it may be helpful for arranging charging, etc. for when expected. I know we can phone and text and that would happen as well possibly, but this would generate more goodwill I think and we have the technology. :cool:
     
  2. Mark E

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    Never, ever, ever, share your password to your Tesla account - nor any other website password for that matter. Its a really bad idea on so many levels. If you want to share your location use a find my friends type app for that.
     
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    #3 brewster, Jul 10, 2015
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    Fair enough Mark E.
    So you wouldn't even share it with a family member?
    I see Bjorn has done it for a friend when they had a 'race'. I've seen another clip where the driver shared with his co-worker.

    Looks like Allen Wong (Remote S) is heading down the right path with ...

    From the App-Store ...
    'No-Commands' Mode - lets you log in the app for your family/friends to monitor your Tesla's location live without allowing them to issue commands to your car.
     
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    I agree with Mark. I think Bjorn and his friend logged into each other's phone and did not share the password, he had to log in again using his phone to block his friend after he kept opening the sunroof and it got jammed. Not sure about the other clip but I guess it may have been the same.
     
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    Family only in an emergency
     
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    Only give your login credentials to people you would permanently give a copy of the kar-key (or FOB in this case).
    The password is almost as good as a key, with added ability to track you, and only highly trusted individuals should have this, or share it and change the password afterwords.

    Worst-case is probably that they use the app to unlock and start the car, drive away and log in to the website and change the password so you are locked out of the app...
     
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    #7 Gabz, Jul 15, 2015
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    just so I can get this straight I can steal a tesla (hypothetically) if i managed to workout the owners password ? there isn't some 2 factor authentication method ?
     
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    Hypothetically someone with your password could order another car from the website.... They could also remote unlock, AMD start the car. What 2 factor method would you like? It'd have to be something that is completely portable or virtual otherwise it defeats the purpose altogether.
     
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    Biometric iD might be an idea. Not sure how it could be implemented though. Maybe a fingerprint reader on the touch screen? Or retinal camera on rear view mirror?
     
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    I would llove that. But you would need a fingerprint reader outside of the car in order to lose the fob.
     
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    just surprised i guess password reuse and easy to guess passwords like myt3sla etc.. would be a weak point in the system... compared to other systems my bank if transferring to unknown accounts need to type in code from sms. I have a RSA token for my work VPN. Steam the online gaming platform when using a new or computer you haven't used for a long period of time require a code be typed in that's emailed to you. and lets not think about the goverment websites like mygov which go overboard.
     
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    I agree that the password restrictions should be stronger - and because of my background use a password made from a phrase with numbers, letters, varying case and special characters, but many don't. Be aware though that if the access were made 2 factor it may break some of the 3rd party apps. I'd agree that registering the phone with the app on it would be a good idea - similar to phone banking. But wouldn't like to see the SMS getting sent out every time you go to use the app or start the car.
     
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    Simply put; the facility is provided and it's up to the operator to make sure it's used properly.
    1. Choose a proper password.
    2. Don't drive the car into a brick wall at 100mph.
    Same level of responsibility.
    For the last week I have rented a Model S with full App access. Now I have returned the car, I hope he changed the password.
     
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    Ray did you rent a Model S for TMC Connect and If so who did you rent it from?
    I will be in San Francisco in September and can't bring myself to rent an ICE.
     
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    Doesn't the autopilot deploy emergency brakes to reduce your impact velocity? :smile: In any case I'd put that at a higher level of responsibility than the password myself.
     
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    Good chance that your insurance would not payout, if you gave your password to somebody that then resulted in the theft or damage of your car. Much the same as leaving the keys in your ignition, and walking away from the car.
     
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    I rented an S 40 in LA and drove to San Francisco. This limited range would be difficult in Oz but with all those superchargers...

    see https://relayrides.com/car-rental/san-gabriel/tesla-model-s/97051

    There are others from Hertz etc but much more expensive.
     

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