jhm
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I know some people in the wind industry. They'd be interested in giving idiots something besides cancer to worry about.
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Coronavirus
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states loosening up rules on shelter in place too early just extends the current wave. Might have been inevitable since we are dealing with 50 different states all doing different things but we haven't even got to wave 2, 3, 4...
we might be back on track for 100k+ deaths again.
jhm
Well-Known Member
I cant speak about usa, too big, too far away
But while Aus and NZ both had many similar words ie essential workers, Australia was more relaxed. For instance, the line between essential and non essential was drawn between hairdresser and beautician.
So in Australia, hair dressers were considered essential, so they could stay open. You are welcome to go out for an essential service such as getting your hair cut. A hair dresser's child was welcome to go a school even though school was kinda closed. Not so in NZ, even a kid losing their ball onto their neighbours yard, the neighbour was not allowed to return the ball!.
Very similar per capita result between NZ and Australia, but the strictness of the supression/lock down was quite different.
Like captain america saying 'i can do it all day long' ( and not look shaggy) Australia can maintain its current suppression for the next 6 months and not look too shaggy.
(Ps it was quite contentious drawing the line in the sand between hairdressor and beautician) but the line seems to have been appropiate for this country's particular situation. Resourced test/trace & isolate is a technique not a strategy, but perhaps as a technique it seems effective to making australia's strategy work in Australia.
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United Airlines' Social Distancing Sham | One Mile at a Time
Airline passenger describes packed flight to NYC surrounded by people not wearing masks
United will require flight attendants to wear masks on flights starting April 24 - CNN
I hadn't been following the airlines, but I would have thought there would be a lot more changes by now.
Apparently masks are still not required to be worn by all passengers. United is the first US airline to give masks to employees starting tomorrow. US airlines are still this far behind even after whole states have asked that masks be worn in public.
Airline passenger describes packed flight to NYC surrounded by people not wearing masks
United will require flight attendants to wear masks on flights starting April 24 - CNN
I hadn't been following the airlines, but I would have thought there would be a lot more changes by now.
Apparently masks are still not required to be worn by all passengers. United is the first US airline to give masks to employees starting tomorrow. US airlines are still this far behind even after whole states have asked that masks be worn in public.
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Report from Hawai'i
New cases are registering in the single digits while recoveries are registering in the double-digits. One of the advantages of Australia and New Zealand are the advantages that an island offers in terms of keeping cases from migrating in.
Yesterday there was a news story of a couple that was visiting Hawai'i but chose not to honor the 14 day quarantine. They were reported by their hotel. In response to this report and the lecture they received, they moved to a new hotel. That hotel also reported them for violating their 14 day quarantine. Police were called, tracked them down, and escorted to the airport for their flight out of the state.
New cases are registering in the single digits while recoveries are registering in the double-digits. One of the advantages of Australia and New Zealand are the advantages that an island offers in terms of keeping cases from migrating in.
Yesterday there was a news story of a couple that was visiting Hawai'i but chose not to honor the 14 day quarantine. They were reported by their hotel. In response to this report and the lecture they received, they moved to a new hotel. That hotel also reported them for violating their 14 day quarantine. Police were called, tracked them down, and escorted to the airport for their flight out of the state.
dhanson865
Well-Known Member
The 2 biggest hotspots in India
Delhi : very Hot but Dry
Mumbai : very Hot and Humid
Any questions ?
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/attachments/00temp-jpg.535128/
I think that highlights the implication of the table that being indoors is less safe.
Turns out humans like the comfort and safety of indoors that is now also a transmission zone for disease.
If only you could get 7 billion people to live outside on the ground with everyone at least 13 feet apart and also somehow not attacked by insects or predatory animals.
dhanson865
Well-Known Member
"When is the flu season in the United States?
In the United States, flu season occurs in the fall and winter. While influenza viruses circulate year-round, most of the time flu activity peaks between December and February, but activity can last as late as May."
The Flu Season | CDC
Seems to fit with the theory that school letting out is sometimes the cutoff, It might end before school lets out, but if it doesn't the end of the school year slows transmission rates enough to stop it until fall rolls around.
Daniel in SD
(supervised)
I think that some media must be giving the impression that the US is under some sort of super strict lockdown, that is not the case.
Other than hairdressers, which are closed in California, our restrictions are very similar to Australia as far as I can tell. My hair will be very shaggy after six months but I will survive.
For people curious about Australia's restrictions: Restrictions on non-essential services | business.gov.au
dhanson865
Well-Known Member
This just in, new trend in casual face masks.
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
FiveThirtyEight did an interview with Dr. Chris Murray which provided some insights into what they are doing behind the scenes and what their motivations are. It was decent, whether or not you agree with their approach. They're changing the model as the purpose of the model evolves.
Video: FiveThirtyEight Politics Podcast: Forecasting the toll of COVID-19
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
Another variation on the theme:
But don't worry, Gov. Kemp has figured out the way to deal with this testing problem...virtual testing!:
Brian Kemp on Twitter
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Model Talk: Forecasting The Toll Of COVID-19 l FiveThirtyEight Politics Podcast
He is systematically following the advice of a random number generator.
Probably because many of the restrictions are nonsensical. It seems that in the US they aren't based on any science or data, but rather on trying to make people stay in their houses. It is much easier to infect someone indoors than outdoors. This is based on an actual study (I linked to it a few hundred posts ago). Allowing people to go outdoors and do outdoor activities (staying 6 or even 10 feet apart) would do a lot of good. And it would give people some needed exercise, Vitamin D and some semblance of normalcy so they are less likely to "cheat" the lockdowns in other more risky ways.
for those who like models...
https://www.health.gov.au/sites/def...e-current-impact-of-covid-19-in-australia.pdf
including repatriates
excluding repatriates
note well, middle of the dark blue line is basically the number, the wideness of the light blue is due to low case count (which is good)
https://www.health.gov.au/sites/def...e-current-impact-of-covid-19-in-australia.pdf
including repatriates
excluding repatriates
note well, middle of the dark blue line is basically the number, the wideness of the light blue is due to low case count (which is good)
SageBrush
REJECT Fascism
Fair enough.
Covid Ig studies are now available that show kinetics of each isotype. E.g.,
Analytical performances of a chemiluminescence immunoassay for SARS-CoV-2 IgM/IgG and antibody kinetics. - PubMed - NCBI
It appears that Covid has an early isotype switch ~ 6-7 days after symptom onset so my earlier statement that median time to death lags seroconversion by ~ 10 days still appears correct. Since hospitalization typically occurs ~ 5 days after symptom onset an apples to apples calc would be cumulative admissions through D-2 of the serology study.
I'm waiting for some moron to try a bleach enema. Seriously, and all kidding aside, Trump's moronic comments are going to induce at least several people if not more into doing something that results in their death.
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