I don't know if that is "THE" CNN Dr. Gupta. There are a lot of Dr.Guptas listed.
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I don't know if that is "THE" CNN Dr. Gupta. There are a lot of Dr.Guptas listed.
This argument is like saying a public database of polluters stops pollution. Alas, that is not the case.
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HG Wells
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During Nurse Appreciation Week a group of Delaware County, Pennsylvania citizens socially distanced in their cars to thank nurses and healthcare workers, only to be disrupted by a gun-waving SUV driver.
Gun-waving SUV driver crashed car into group paying tribute to Pennsylvania nurses and healthcare workers
Gun-waving SUV driver crashed car into group paying tribute to Pennsylvania nurses and healthcare workers
My wife used to like when the old guys would give a prep on a new drug. They knew what they were talking about and could answer questions or get the answer. When they replaced them with young attractive people she just stopped it all. They could only recite from scripts.Yeah, me too. My patients just never got insulin again after big pharma stopped those free meals.
I do agree that not having to sit through the sales pitches . . . that's a blessing. Being told by some sales guy with at best a BS and maybe an MBA about the "benefits" of drug X was usually pretty insulting. A few times I just told them to give me the damn product insert and shut up.
Some do more than just recite from the script.
Insys executive gave doctor lap dance while promoting drug, witness says
Well dang it, the sheer volume of @bkp_duke's BS is haunting me.
So in your field (as if that negates all other medical fields), there are "VERY VERY few patented medications," just hormones "99% of the time." Yet somehow you heard so many new-drug sales pitches that you finally told them to shut up, and feel blessed to escape them.
There must a whole lotta hormones if only 1% of your medications caused such sales fatigue. And again, whatever the percentage in your field, the obvious fact is conventional doctors learn mostly meds supplied by Big Pharma, and Big Pharma thrives on patents.
I do agree that not having to sit through the sales pitches . . . that's a blessing. Being told by some sales guy with at best a BS and maybe an MBA about the "benefits" of drug X was usually pretty insulting. A few times I just told them to give me the damn product insert and shut up.
So in your field (as if that negates all other medical fields), there are "VERY VERY few patented medications," just hormones "99% of the time." Yet somehow you heard so many new-drug sales pitches that you finally told them to shut up, and feel blessed to escape them.
There must a whole lotta hormones if only 1% of your medications caused such sales fatigue. And again, whatever the percentage in your field, the obvious fact is conventional doctors learn mostly meds supplied by Big Pharma, and Big Pharma thrives on patents.
RobStark
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dhanson865
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I posted that on Sunday I've been seeing Wendy's beef shortage stories on the news in several states since Monday, and national news Since Tuesday. I just didn't think anyone wanted me to post all the articles about it after I got so my funny ratings for that post.
Wendy's undergoing temporary supply shortages from wymt in Kentucky from last weekend is the earliest one I saw.
jhm
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Yesterday the Smart-Ass Model was predicting 2.5M ultimate cases and 153k ultimate deaths. Today this has pulled back a little to 2.24M ultimate cases and 137k ultimate deaths.
Some thoughts on interpreting projections from this model. Obviously, these ultimate projections are going to bounce around quite a bit from day to data. The aim with this projections is track performance in real time. If the projections decrease, that suggests that epidemic may be turning more favorable. If the projections increase, that would suggest that the epidemic may be turning for the worse. In the Smart-Ass Model I use the last 28 days for the fit. So with each roll forward, the model picks up a pair of observations and loses a pair. Both pairs can influence the shift in fit and projections. Each day of the week gets 4 observations, so that weekly behavior can be balanced out. Still some weekly oscillations can persist. In a way, the variability in projections from day to day can give us some feel for real uncertainty, which is likely much greater than the variability of projections. Each day is a wrestling match with this virus. How we collectively battle this epidemic will determine how bad it can get. Will we have second and third waves? Only if we collectively allow it. This simplistic model has no great insight in to how effective we will be in halting this epidemic. This model cannot predict what poor choices the president or governors will make or the consequences yet to show up in daily cases and deaths. This model can't tell us if people will become more effective with social distancing or more careless. But it can tell us how we have been trending over the last 28 days. It is our choice as a people if we will take steps to improve these projections.
What the last 28 days tell us is that we are trending toward 2.24M cases and 137k deaths.
dhanson865
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Kentucky Woman Cuts Hole In Mask Because “It Makes It A Lot Easier To Breathe” be sure to watch the video so you can hear her say it.
Whiskey Riff’s Instagram video: “WE’RE DOOMED.”
Whiskey Riff’s Instagram video: “WE’RE DOOMED.”
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Speaking of corruption of our medical system and government by Big Pharma, here's a short documentary about a virologist who makes explosive claims about same. I'm not endorsing it (she says nothing about vitamin C), because I don't know enough to judge the likelihood of her claims. But I do know enough about medical industry incentives (which are obvious) to believe her claims are possible.
The channel that posted it recommends watching it soon before YouTube removes it.
The channel that posted it recommends watching it soon before YouTube removes it.
MXLRplus
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Somehow I don't think our government needs pharmaceutical companies in order to be corrupt. Who would spend $10 million applying for a job that pays $175k a year?
bkp_duke
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Nice to see it is SO EASY to get under your skin.
Have you seen how many different brands of insulin there are? Seriously, google it. I know that's HARD for the intellectually challenged like you . . . but I think you can do it. Why do you think those companies were paying for dinner? They wanted to tell us why "their brand" was better than the other brand. Do you think I'm too stupid to not see through that? I always prescribed what was best for MY PATIENT. PERIOD. I WAS ALWAYS VIEWING ANYTHING PRESENTED BY A PHARMA COMPANY WITH A HUGE DEGREE OF SKEPTICISM.
Do you truly think that doctors are the most gullible people there are?
Your entire argument, which you make VERY CLEAR, is that us doctors are sell-outs to big pharma and we just do their bidding to up their profit margins.
He're the rub in that argument, and an example to make my point - ONCE A DIAGNOSIS IS MADE, "standard of care" dictates how I treat that condition. Anything deviating from standard of care, without EXCELLENT documentation and reasoning, is sub-par, inadequate, puts the patient at risk, and opens oneself up for a malpractice lawsuit. Standard of care is not something made up or dictated by pharma companies, the AMA, or even the medical schools at which we train. Standard of care is based up on the FULL evidence for treatment of a condition (not cherry-picked crap that the news is tossing out daily right now). Additionally, when following standard of care, I don't get to pick the BRAND of drug that my patient has to take for their condition. For diabetes, for example, I don't have any say in the insulin that they take. You know who decides that? The insurance companies do. They only have a VERY SELECT few on their "formulary". If the patient goes to pick up their insulin and insists on a different brand . . . it's not covered. Same thing with thyroid hormone, growth hormone, testosterone, etc. etc. etc.
You want to go RAIL AGAINST the machine, go find some insurance exec to troll. As doctors, we understand the science (and YES that includes homeopathic alternatives - which you seem to ONLY want to consider), and we do our very best to always do what is best for our patients. And we do that for EVERY, SINGLE, PATIENT.
It's morons like you that make me look back on leaving medicine with a smile. You remind me of the patients that would spend 5 minutes googling something before their office visit (like treating their hypothyroidism with vitamins) and even after politely explaining to them why what they found would not work, they had the gall to think that their recently discovered blog post somehow trumped all the decades of training of the physician they were seeing that day. If they felt that way, why even go to the appointment? I suspect they were hoping, somehow against hope, that someone in a position of authority would validate that opinion.
EDIT - pulling a SageBrush - you are now a proud member of the ignore bin.
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Daniel in SD
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No loss. Spicy chicken or GTFO.
Why are chicken processing plants being spared?
EDIT: Not sure why I thought poultry plants weren't getting hit. This CDC study says there have been outbreaks at 115 meat and poultry processing plants. Anywhere from 0.6%-18% of workers infected (average 3%).
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/pdfs/mm6918e3-H.pdf
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MXLRplus
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Chicken factories have been hit hard too. Many have shut down in CA. Chicken freezes well, but give it a month or two and we will all be vegans and eating our Tesla 'vegan' seats.
This reminds me of something I read recently:
I guess consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds like mine. Or something.
Yeah, I already admitted that insults and deadly corruption can do it. Add lying to the list.
Well, your straw-man is getting warmer but still in the Arctic.
Your latest gush of rather intense rhetoric contains false claims that I already dispatched (my alleged reliance on blogs) but also some new issues that are pretty important. I'm tired now but will write about them tomorrow, for the amusement of others since you claim to have run away.
MXLRplus
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If somebody could mix Vitamin C with marijuana and Viagra, you'd have a cure for everything except gullibility. And you could make clothes out of it!
I'm still waiting for a 3 month RCT comparing surgical masks vs zinc lip balm (with added hydroxychloroquine) as prophylactic protection against covid19
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