hockeythug
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It's ok. I'll take my L on that. I had no idea he was somehow connected to the seat supplier.
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Delay in model X launch?
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It's ok. I'll take my L on that. I had no idea he was somehow connected to the seat supplier.
The other thing he said that we all talked a great deal about what that the early cars would be of compromised quality and would lack features that would come later. Frankly, that was more inflammatory to me than the notion that Tesla might not hit the fat part of the production ramp until the very end of the year (meaning a few deliveries in 2015).
Anyway, the reports from folks who've seen the Founders cars indicate that they're pretty well built.
I'm a little tired of people quoting my post as an example of TMC inhospitability, without the benefit of the original post for context.
1) Eds' first two TMC posts were made in the investor sub-forum and were extremely negative toward Tesla. In other words, very much like other short trolls.
2) His prediction of zero cars in Q3 was proven wrong and I still expect that 100 cars for 2015 will be shown to be wrong also.
3) The main thing that gave him credibility was the note that the post was removed at the request of Tesla, which is now known to be false.
It seems to me that the only thing he has going for him was that he was generally correct about the Model X rollout being slower than most of us hoped for, which is something that has been true about every Tesla product launch ever. Others may have a different view but I stand by my post. If it talks like a short and posts like a short...
Depends on the car company and the car. Six is infinitely more than zero - you can't just round down to nothing and say "see, he was right." Seats were already a known issue. Not interested in debating further as it is pointless without at least being able to refer back to the original posts. I'm not saying I'm 100% sure he was a short, just that he appeared to be so at the time and I don't appreciate my post being quoted months later as an example of inhospitality, particularly when the original posts are gone and he still has yet to be shown to be right on anything (being "close enough" doesn't count).
Determining whether he was a short or not, or was right or not, is immaterial to whether folks were inhospitable or not. It can go to whether inhospitability was justified. That's a separate discussion. Folks were inhospitable (and, as I mentioned earlier, IMHO far too often are on TMC when members discuss negative-to-Tesla things).
But enough digression. It sounds based on TMC chatter today that at least two Xs were spotted on delivery transports this weekend. Good news. Here's hoping we see a deluge of delivery windows pop up this week.
But enough digression. It sounds based on TMC chatter today that at least two Xs were spotted on delivery transports this weekend. Good news. Here's hoping we see a deluge of delivery windows pop up this week.
scottf200
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ev-enthusiast
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Honestly, I have my very own theory about that Eds saga that started about 07.17. earlier this year and that is a very sad one. I will always keep this my personal one. As everybody else would do, I searched the internet for more information about this topic and I was shocked. As I mentioned before I work in the automotive industry and thus I do have some knowledge to add 1 and 1.
IMO it should be in the interest of every one here (users as well as mods) to have an open minded conversation as close as possible to the reality, as objective with as many opinions as possible. Censorship is always a sign of weakness and is a no go in modern western societies.
I can imagine a whole lot of people here (some others maybe not(!)) could have saved or even made some money during the wild SP swings after 07.17 this year if we had a better discussion about the Eds topic. Just everybody go ahead and take a look at the daily chart for that time frame.
Just one additional thought:
A new forum account is created obviously only to share some important information that could be shared with the public and:
- the person accnowledges to be short TSLA as hell
- and the person is honest and gives correct and validvery bad information for TSLA
Do we really want to ignore such person and scare him away?
Really?
Do we really want lose our money invested in TSLA???
Here is hope for a more pluralistic, objective and friendly conversation in 2016.
That might help the most of us here and give us a better understanding of SP reactions as well.
Cheers.
IMO it should be in the interest of every one here (users as well as mods) to have an open minded conversation as close as possible to the reality, as objective with as many opinions as possible. Censorship is always a sign of weakness and is a no go in modern western societies.
I can imagine a whole lot of people here (some others maybe not(!)) could have saved or even made some money during the wild SP swings after 07.17 this year if we had a better discussion about the Eds topic. Just everybody go ahead and take a look at the daily chart for that time frame.
Just one additional thought:
A new forum account is created obviously only to share some important information that could be shared with the public and:
- the person accnowledges to be short TSLA as hell
- and the person is honest and gives correct and validvery bad information for TSLA
Do we really want to ignore such person and scare him away?
Really?
Do we really want lose our money invested in TSLA???
Here is hope for a more pluralistic, objective and friendly conversation in 2016.
That might help the most of us here and give us a better understanding of SP reactions as well.
Cheers.
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Credit to MrBoylan Tesla Sues Falcon Wing Doors Supplier for finding this...
Tesla sues German auto parts maker over ‘falcon wing’ Model X doors - MarketWatch
Tesla sues German auto parts maker over ‘falcon wing’ Model X doors - MarketWatch
Hope they had enough time to hammer out the kinks considering they switched suppliers in May
Krugerrand
Meow
He was temporarily banned from posting here and then started posting on wk057's forum.
I think if enough users 'report' posts then there is an automatic ban. But that is only speculation on my part. I would be disappointed if I learned a mod did it.
