woolymammoth17
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That we did. No dinner, no movie, no date, no lube. Just right in.hahahaha Tesla didn't use lube on all of these nerds. lol y'all got f**** overnight.
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That we did. No dinner, no movie, no date, no lube. Just right in.hahahaha Tesla didn't use lube on all of these nerds. lol y'all got f**** overnight.
I like your plan. Anyone watching Tesla and listening to Elon since 2017 knows the goal is mass production and lower and lower prices. The Model Y is NOT a luxury vehicle and never was, it's a premium tech vehicle. Prices will go lower into the $40K range now, possibly with single motor RWD like in Europe and China already have. If you are looking for luxury, then please look elsewhere and not at a Tesla.Also, if Tesla becomes the low price leader, again, then the brand is heavily devalued and there's no value in choosing a Tesla. I'll take my money to BMW, Lexus, Audi, etc.
No, Tesla will not be friendly to me by maintaining the value of my current Tesla that I already bought. They're not interested in that, they just want to drive prices down lower and lower to get gasoline cars off the road. Next stop $39K MSRP for Model 3 and $49K MSRP for Model Y.I am a customer of Tesla, and so are you. I have never heard of other companies treating their customers like this. Today, Tesla abandoned me. Do you think it will be friendly to you?
I guess I agree that demand has collapsed when selling a $53K car for $66K. That problem is already solved.Yeah they moved a lot of volume in 2022 but every indication is that demand has collapsed for this car based on the data and their reactions to it.
Semantics…Premium tech vehicle and luxury vehicles are the same. Most luxury vehicles have quite a bit of good tech in it too.I like your plan. Anyone watching Tesla and listening to Elon since 2017 knows the goal is mass production and lower and lower prices. The Model Y is NOT a luxury vehicle and never was, it's a premium tech vehicle. Prices will go lower into the $40K range now, possibly with single motor RWD like in Europe and China already have. If you are looking for luxury, then please look elsewhere and not at a Tesla.
No, Tesla will not be friendly to me by maintaining the value of my current Tesla that I already bought. They're not interested in that, they just want to drive prices down lower and lower to get gasoline cars off the road. Next stop $39K MSRP for Model 3 and $49K MSRP for Model Y.
I guess I agree that demand has collapsed when selling a $53K car for $66K. That problem is already solved.
Semantics…Premium tech vehicle and luxury vehicles are the same. Most luxury vehicles have quite a bit of good tech in it too.
Simply, yes. If new Lamborghini prices were reduced by 30%, they would absolute be considered less premium. If they sold Lambo's at cost, the brand would be damaged and many existing owners would abandon.If Tesla became less premium when they cut prices, did they become more premium when they raised prices?
Good summary of the facts leading up to January 12th.Pretty simple: Value went down $13,000, replacing it went down $20,500 until mid-March, $16,750 after.
Yes, demand was in chaos with the insane implementation of the IRA. Orders were cancelled or not made based on expectation of tax credits after 12/31. First response was to credit $3,750 for December purchases. Then the Treasury Department said credits would be an unlimited $7,500 until March and Tesla increased the credit to $7,500. The final blow was then excluding the best-selling Model Y from any credits. If you followed Musks statements about recession and margins, it was inevitable that prices would be lowered to qualify. It had already happened in China with their covid problem and collapsing economy,
Please take no offense, just inquiring minds. Humor me here….saw that you ordered your Y in June 2021 when the prices were still sub 60k. Based on your post, if the Model Y was in the low-mid 60’s in 2021. Would you have ordered one then not knowing whether the price will keep going up, stay the same or go down?Those who think a car is luxury or premium because it has a BMW or Mercedes badge on it have clearly not experienced a 1-series of A-Class…
My view is that the model Y is a premium vehicle (not luxury) and only gets that rating due to the advanced tech as opposed to materials and fit/finish etc. it is now and should always have been a mid 50k vehicle. I went from a $70k Land Rover product to the Y which was a $20k price drop and that felt right as the materials, build quality, ride snd NVH were a big step down. However for someone spending more than usual on their Toyota crossover, their perception may be different as those vehicles are forgettable to drive with old tech do the Tesla feels like a step up. But it had no business playing in the mid $60k range.
I appreciate your positivity but not sure resale value will follow. Tesla now has one of the oldest non-refreshed product lines in the EV world. They're puling the one lever they have to move inventory - price to a new more price sensitive customer segment. They will also flood the market with more Tesla Model Ys as they ramp up Austin as well. At some point, they're going to create a new and better Model Y (e.g. 4680 batteries with longer range, radar, more autopilot cameras, new looks, etc...) that could potentially justify a higher price. That will likely also push down the price of the older Tesla Model Y generation like ours.Pretty bummed Tesla did this but on the flip side it shows the capability they have to adapt to changes in supply and demand. I doubt other legacy car makers are able to just cut their prices by 20% overnight. I do think the Tesla models will increase in price over time and by extension the resale values will follow. I did trade in a a used vehicle to purchase my model y and got a good deal on it so I'm telling myself I netted out even after the price drop considering that the used car market was also overvalued.
Yeah. Me too.Ouch, paid 71k, now my config is valued at 46k. The car is probably worth 42k now. What a horrible loss of value over 4 months. *Head to Desk*. Nothing quite like throwing 29k away.
It seems he filmed this before the $13k drops, or didn't know about them yet.Was this posted already around here? Video by Doug DeMuro.
He thinks a lot of the Tesla advantages are mostly gone now outside of the supercharging network. Questions whether we can get Teslas in the $25k range later or sub $20k and thinks prices aren't ever going back up again.
check top comment from him on the videoIt seems he filmed this before the $13k drops, or didn't know about them yet.
You liked the car and tech and decided it was worth the asking price. Now you will never buy a Tesla because they have the audacity to sell all this tech at a lower price. Right.Last time I buy a Tesla. I had never lost so much money overnight.