there, fixed it for you.Exactly. As will nearly everyone else that was eager enough to stand in line and put down a fully refundable thousand bucks sight unseen.
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there, fixed it for you.Exactly. As will nearly everyone else that was eager enough to stand in line and put down a fully refundable thousand bucks sight unseen.
Why do you think Model X vehicles weren't available until just recently for test drives? And by just recently, I mean just recently in limited areas and only if you're lucky. Allowing test mules to be driven by customers would be a huge mistake, and one that Tesla is very unlikely to make. My guess is they'll have production vehicles available for test drives after they've delivered to the Tesla and SpaceX employees at the earliest. However, keeping with the way they've done business to date, it'll more than likely be after Tesla, SpaceX, Model S and X owners all get their cars. Then, things will start to make their way out into the public.With Elon Musk's recent claims about rapid production in late 2017 being assured for the Model 3 I can think of little reason that test mules won't be available for test drives by Q3 of 2017. It would make sense for each Tesla retail location to at least get 2-3 cars for those who have pre-orders as well as other potential customers the opportunity to do a test drive before 2018.
there, fixed it for you.
Maybe... but may also turn out to be much different. Different size, different weight, different chassis, different motor drive, different...Need an idea what it will be like to drive a model 3? Test drive a model S in a 70D configuration...
Yeah, and is the S70D same as base model 3, base battery dual drive or what? Might give some idea but then again, might not.Maybe... but may also turn out to be much different. Different size, different weight, different chassis, different motor drive, different...
Your right that the service îs extensive and yes it has nothing to do with the car but all to do with paying for the sales people and paying for the rent of the showroom/service centre. Expect the model 3 service costs to be cheaper than the model S as way more people will buy the 3 and it's a cheaper car.The $565 per year maintenance, you'll see if you look around here, is something that is often discussed (contested?) and in my opinion, excessive.
I also dont believe that the cost to maintain a Tesla is anywhere NEAR maintaining a German car, unless you're talking about doing all the work yourself. No fluid changes, except for battery temp management? No air filters, aside from the cabin filter. I dunno.. I just dont see it.
As far as needing a battery in 8-10 years, I doubt that as well. Sure, if you want to "maintain" the same amount of range as new. But if thats is what you're expecting, perhaps a battery powered car is not for you. All batteries degrade. But I also believe that in the future, maintaining a Tesla battery is going to much easier since the pack is composed of multiple sub-packs. There will be aftermarket options, just as there are aftermarket options for Priuses.
Also keep in mind you probably wont need to replace your brake pads nearly as much in an electric vehicle since it will be taking advantage of regenerative braking most of the time. The only thing that worries me about getting a Tesla is my increased use of tires since I will be compelled to floor it everywhere.
And lastly, I realize it doesnt apply to most, but I guess the free charging I get at work really helps with the "extremely cheap to maintain and operate" for me.
Exactly. As will nearly everyone else that was eager enough to stand in line and put down a thousand bucks sight unseen.
Of course they will eventually have demo vehicles, but I don't see this being an urgent "as soon as possible" priority.
I can tell you that I'm a reservation holder and I will not configure and buy my car until I've done a test drive. I'm even more firm on that with the faster ramp up plan. I have a bad feeling there's going to be some serious issues in the early going. I have no doubt they'll iron them out in short order but there will be issues.
I test drove the Leaf and thought it was a blast, but definitely not "M3 blast". I have a 340xi and the Model 3 needs to offer similar levels of engagement for driving. Even if the
Model 3 is not going to be a low maintenance vehicle. Tesla charges Model S owners $565 a year for "maintenance". After 8-10 years the car likely needs a battery replacement if you need to keep the range near the original numbers.
If you add all of that up then the Model 3 is going to cost much more to maintain than most German cars over a 10 year period of time.
I didn't read the whole thread so this may have been discussed at length already... The annual service for the Tesla is optional and even if you don't have it done it does not affect your warranty. Also keep in mind that there is no oil to change and the brakes will wear out extremely slowly since regenerative braking is so strong--I can manage to get around town with hardly ever using the brakes except to fully stop (regen can get you to about 3 mph on a flat road) or to stop abruptly. After our first year we had the service done and honestly it didn't seem necessary. We're now at two years and the only thing we've had to do is rotate the tires every 5,000 miles and replace the wiper fluid. We're getting ready to get new tires which will be the biggest cost to us so far.
On top of that, electricity is so much cheaper than gas where we live, even at $2 a gallon.
As for the battery, we've lost less than 1% per year, so after 10 years I would anticipate it being at over 80% of the original range--maybe more. Of course, by then there will be much cheaper batteries and we'll be able to upgrade to a much higher capacity anyway (if we haven't upgraded already).
I suppose I don't understand what sort of "serious issues" you could possibly become aware of in the course of a ten minute test drive. Sounds to me you'll be more comfortable farther down the production line whether you get a test drive or not.
In general, out of all the research and information gathering I do before purchasing a car, I find the obligatory around-the-block test drive to be practically useless for anything beyond verifying the most basic of conditions like "do I fit in the seat". Which admittedly is important, but probably not an issue unless you're on the far reaches of the bell curve.
Of course, if there is no competition.That doesn't fundamentally change anything. I expect the conversion rate from reservation to sale will be extremely high on early reservations.
The only vehicles I've test driven before buying were used.
There is nothing I can gain from sitting in a new car over the research I've done beforehand.